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Last Readers' Feedback Before Japan This is going to be the last bunch of Readers' Responses before I settle-in to my new apartment in Michinoshi. Oh, someone sent me a few panels of the following cartoon. "Terror Widows" by artist Ted Rall, satirizes the money that relatives of the victims are to receive from the government and from charities- and the idea that a number of 9/11 widows suddenly became a little too-comfortable in the public spotlight of the talk-show circuit. Yes, I suppose the cartoon is a little tasteless...
Naturally, the cartoonist got upbraided and his drawings were yanked from the New York Times website when some angry messages were received from a number of different people. Never poke-fun at the widow of a martyr, for her behavior is always beyond reproach it seems. On the same topic, someone sent me the following headline from
ABC News: "FORT WORTH, Texas March 8 A woman accused of hitting a
homeless man with her car, driving home with him lodged in her broken windshield
and ignoring his pleas as he bled to death in her garage is not the monster being
portrayed by prosecutors, her attorney says... She was simply a frightened, emotionally
distraught young woman who had an accident, panicked and made a wrong choice... Imagine what the scene must've been like in her garage? This guy has a couple of slashed-up limbs thrust through her broken windshield and blood is dribbling all over the place. She's standing in the doorway with her arms crossed. "For the love of GOD, lady! Please call an ambulance so I can stop BLEEDING all over the place! I've got glass splinters buried in my neck!" "What a nuisance this is. You're not making matters any better for me by making so much noise... Just... can you please keep the screaming down to a dull roar? People live in this neighborhood and frankly, all the whimpering is inconsiderate. My friends and I are about to start brainstorming places to dump your corpse, so there's no sense in being a big baby over this..." But in the meantime, go get yourself a baba-ghanoush or open a bottle of Mello-Yello and sit-back to see the latest bunch of reader feedback. They're always fun to read. And there are quite a bunch of them this time around...
Thessalonius (a guy) asks: Hey NiceGuy, have you ever tried dating any black women? It seems like you haven't, based on what you've written.
My response: Have I ever tried dating any black women? Yes and no. YES I've tried but whenever I've asked her on a date, she'd always say 'NO'. One funny example: last October, I was at one of my brother's parties and there was this young woman there who I thought was absolutely stunning. She was slim, well-dressed, wore glasses and she was also black. I talked to her for a little bit, and I could tell that she was very intelligent and had what seemed to be a great personality. I was really impressed by her and I started thinking of asking her to lunch the next day but my brother probably read my mind. He casually mentioned to me later-on that she was a lesbian. Shrug. So, that would've been one more rejection to add to the pile. Heh, and if I had asked her out and she replied with 'no, I'm a lesbian', I'd be wondering afterwards if that was just a ploy to get me out of her face or if she was really a lesbian. Naturally, not all black women I've asked-out have been lesbians, but you get the picture of what my record has been like. Heh, so I guess the best answer would be: yes, I've tried... but so far, most black women I've met haven't tried me. I really wouldn't mind dating a black woman if she's fun to be around, and I find a lot of them to be very attractive. I just wish I could've found one who'd actually let me go on one date with her. Thanks for writing. -- NG
RomanF (a guy) writes: First
off, I'd lke to say how awsome your site was and how well thought out and planned
your ideas were on it. It really cleared things up for myself and some of my friends
(the ones who would understand it anyway.) (Ahh, Orwell is one of my favorites. I don't consider myself to be an expert in anything, but thanks! -- NG)
Graham (A guy) writes: Women
are always saying that looks do not matter to them, and that they are attracted
to the more "deeper" aspects of a person; men, on the other hand, are
superficial and shallow, as they only care about a woman's physical beauty and
nothing more. This is refuted by one simple fact: I have
learned quite a bit during my 37 years as a 'nice guy.' Your website indicates
that you are 26 years old-- you are wise and perceptive for your age. Wait until
you hit your late 30's. (Wow. So simple, yet oddly accurate. Thanks for the compliment... I wrote him and asked him what happens when the 'late 30s' roll-around? --NG)
Graham offers this grim assessment: If you're a nice guy, the same thing that happens to you when you are in your '20's. The preferences of women do not change when they leave their 20's and enter their 30's-- only instead of breaking up with their asshole boyfriends, they are divorcing their asshole husbands. The female infatuation with wealth, "bad boys," and/or insecure losers never ceases to be a source of fascination with me at this point. But don't ever, ever underestimate the power of good looks and their effect on women. Yes, power is an afrodisiac, and it stands as an exception to good looks (and money is power as well, but in a different form). What I am going to say is completely at odds with what every woman will tell you, and is somewhat revolutionary-- women are more preoccupied with looks than men are. It is a myth that men are more physical and are more drawn to physical beauty-- yes, we like an attractive woman, but most of us will admit it. We're talking primitive, primordial forces at work here-- unless you are a Bill Gates-type geek, a woman is subconsciously evaluating the physical aspects of a potential mate for the purposes of acquiring the best genes for their offspring. Yeah, human dysfunction and the female attraction for male flotsam clouds this general rule, but keep one thing in mind-- how come professional athletes have immediate, unlimited access to almost all women, and you and I don't? It ain't just the money (although that is a big part of it). How
do I know this? For four years I shared an apartment with a friend who I have
known for 20 years. He is a physical specimen and astonishingly handsome. Women
fell in love with him on sight. He routinely picked up gorgeous girls with minimal
effort. Women would get into fights with each other over him. Ex-girlfriends stalked
him. Women asked HIM out on dates. It was truly amazing. And it was all based
primarily on looks. I have never seen men throw away their pride and behave in
such a manner as the women who came under his spell. And, of course, he treated
most of them like shit. When I was your
age, I always believed a woman when she turned me down with the old "I'm
so sorry, but I have a boyfriend" line. In nearly all instances, however,
she is politely telling you to scram. I would say that nearly half the time, she
does not really have a boyfriend. The other half of the time she really does have
a boyfriend, but her rejection of you should not be interpreted to mean that your
proposition would have been accepted but for the boyfriend. What she is really
saying is, "I have a boyfriend, and I am more interested in him than I am
in you. So get lost." Never try to teach a pig how to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig. -- Mark Twain (Wow. I... I'm totally bereft of anything to add. -- NG)
CoolJen, a girl, writes: I havent had the opportunity to read through your whole site (think that may take awhile) but i totally agree with you and you have opened my eyes to some of the things that i also do (i dont feel i am on the far end of manipulation and being a sucky woman...i am a "nice girl"). Anyways, I just wanted to give you my support and i am very glad to have come across your site. Good luck with your site and with finding a nice girl....you deserve it!!! (Glad to hear that I might've made a positive difference! Thanks! -- NG)
Boba_Fett (a guy) writes: I think they suck because most of them refuse to date any other guy unless it's "their" type. They stick to the same guy. "OHHH he's to be he surfer type or into clubs blah blah fuckign blah." They piss me off. Girls have turned me into a bitter bitter guy, being 23 I've learned at a young age to forget them. Being single is better than being with someone who wishes you were someone or something else. I'm going to join No Ma'am with Al Bundy! (Hah! I always thought the concept of 'No Ma'am' was hilarious. Enjoying Married With Children was definitely one of those guilty pleasures. -- NG)
RamseyA (a guy) writes: I was surfing the net one day while trying to deal with the wasteland my romantic life had become and stumbled onto your website. It was exactly what the doctor ordered. I thought that my level of pseudo-misogyny marked me as clinically insane but apparently not. That or we (guys who CAN see things for what they are) are in such a percecuted minority by the politically correct. I also say pseudo (although sometimes it does go over) misogyny becuase I do know some GOOD 'kick ass' chicks. They give me some hope. I guess I should say something about myself. I am a 28 year old Filipino guy living in Montreal, Canada. I graduated with a BA in English Literature and have minors in Education, History and Religious Studies. I am not a whacko (unless it's football season), am smart, well adjusted (mostly) and all in all, normal (what the hell is normal anyway?). (I wish I knew. Heh, but who wants to be normal? -- NG) I plan to teach English as a second language in Japan some time in May (I don't exactly know where yet). I am currently obsessed with 'chemistry'. The last girl I approached with romantic overtures, the one who laughed at all my jokes, was easy-going, bright (but not that bright, apparently), attractive, energetic, who I could chat with for hours on end said, 'Christian there's just no chemistry between us'. Enter 7 months of depression as I tried to 'just be friends'. I guess she had chemistry with that boy she was fucking for two years that told her that he just wanted to be friends with her and that he never found her physically or personality-wise attractive. (Yeah, 'chemistry' is another example of female bullshit. 'Oh, it's chemistry which is to blame and certainly not my attraction to dysfunctional men!' -- NG)
RamseyA writes again, after some prompting from me... The simple fact of the matter, I think, is physical attraction. If the man is physicaly attractive he can get away with murder. Have you seen the near hypnotic effect handsome men have on women? Their eyes go all glassy and they lean into the guy. Thus, the physically attractive man does NOT have to be substantive. Physical attractiveness totally trumps all the attributes of the 'nice guy'. Since I am a Filipino guy attracted to white women (admittedly, I was raised on a steady diet of the unrealistic depictions of knock-out women in playboy and porn films), I also lose racially, to the tall, thin, white guy who is good looking. (Well, if it means anything, I think quite a few Filipina women are very attractive. -- NG) MY personal theory is that the taller and thinner a man is the more vacuous he is and therefore, the more attractive he is to women. The last rejection chimed in with a pseudo-racist comment when she said, 'I don't want interracial children'. (But then, why was she in bed with me kissing, wrestling and groping?) (Oh, that is so damn reprehensible... hasn't the dumb broad ever heard of birth control?? She deserves a boot-to-the-head. -- NG) On courting and consummation: I propose that women have these incredibly unrealistic and rigid 'checkoff' lists that do NOT measure the man's true self. What it measures is the applicant's treachery (ability to play the game and court. EX: The ability to furrow his eyebrows in mock caring or drop the appropriate bon mot at the right time). I was disqualified off one list when, I: 1) Admitted to chewing gum, 2) Did not walk behind her as we walked down the street and 3) Was too 'manly' in bed as we play-wrestled. (WHAT?! Chewing gum?! Not walking at a respectable-enough distance behind her?! Give her a boot-to-the-head! -- NG) Concerning the third point, it seems not only do they propose a monopoly on the courting area but the bedroom as well. Of course, to her, the natural position in bed was HER on top of me, constantly. Of course, if I was treacherous, I would have not been my true good self and just masqueraded as one of her 'chemistry' boys. To many women (and men who are overly concerned about it and yet unable to come to terms with it) penis size, like height, is very important. This lends itself to my first point on handsomeness. Thus, to revise, handsomeness and/or a huge cock trumps all of the attributes of nice guys. But to clarify, I am NOT saying that nice guys cannot be handsome and/or be well endowed. What I am saying is that 'chemistry' boys know how to apply their treachery to seperate themselves from nice guys who are handsome and/or well endowed. One of my friends has relapsed into his Cassanova ways (he is certainly an accredited lady-killer with many pelts) but in a way (despite him juggling 5 women at the moment who all pay HIS way and know nothing of the others), I am NOT very upset at him. HE is EXACTLY what THEY DESERVE. (May his use of them never end. They deserve each other. -- NG) Have you ever seen an afternoon TV show called 'The Other Half'? (Nope. -- NG) It it hosted by Dick Clark, Danny Bonaduce (Good God. Now I'm glad I haven't seen it. -- NG) and some other young actor. What do you think of it, if you've seen it? It is supposed to be an exposition of women's world through the eyes of man. I think it is an insult to strong men everywhere with its effeminate babbling. Women have the mistaken impression that men are/should be cuddly sensitive teddybears who are just fountains of tolerance able to put up with all their inconsistancies. I detest that strain of thought. To me, a man is STRONG first and THEN can be sensitive. Sensitivity, tenderness and sweetness also, need not be the shwarmy, over done, oversentimentalized, Hallmark card-ed variety. A strong man may not be overly expressive of his own feminine side but can choose to express it in non ostentatious or overt ways. If treacherous chemistry boys (with their pseudo-sweetness) are an extreme to the nice guy I also think that teddy bears (who are nothing but sweetness) misrepresent men (although I am inclined favourably more toward the teddy bears than treachery-chemistry boys because they are genuine). (Watching they way men pursue and throw gifts at American women often reminds me of how the ancient Egyptians worshipped dung-eating bugs! -- NG) Admittedly this is a rant and might not be appropriate between strangers. If you want me to desist in my observations please do not hesitate to politely say so. (No, no, you're fine... I mean, I've exposed my most embarrassing sexual moments to total strangers. -- NG) PS-There is currently a movie playing in North America called Forty Days and Forty Night starring Josh Hartnett. (Yup, been there, done that. -- NG) The main character (Hartnett) abstains from all forms of sexual gratification (with or without partner) to purify himself and refocus his life (in this case to get over an ex as well as be able to love more fully a new woman). I like to constantly test my willpower and so have now, myself, abstained for 2 weeks (I AM single). I find what keeps me going is my anger at women and to prevent sex, the desire for their confused company, from making me forget the STRONG, self-sufficient man that I am and who they cannot see.
ErikTheRed (a guy) writes: we all had our fair share of heartbreaks...lies, mind-games...being the free-therapist...we're getting tired... then finally someone speaks out...thanks NiceGuy...we needed a guy like you -- sometimes
i'm expected to read their minds -- to be able to please them every minute they
are around me, to be there for them at anytime, but most of the time they always beat around the bush...wait and bide their time until you screw up, forget, and even act in a way they find repulsive but you never knew they felt that way about it... most relationships suffer because we fail to talk...i want to talk, but they seem to be preoccupied with something else (Hah! How true! Men don't talk because women don't listen and would rather not hear what we have to say anyway. -- NG) even with the issue of sex, where should i touch her? what should i do? what makes her feel good? yet she still fails to speak -- she still holds back as if she's afraid miscommunication perhaps? -- this makes me feel that i'm not giving enough for her...then i'm building up an image in my head that it was only me who was doing the "giving" in this relationship, while i figure she was only a vagina to fuck -- but that's not the case, to me she's someone to be with...someone to talk to..someone to hold, someone to go home to, someone to wake up beside you, we find out that we get more frustrated with the things we make up in our heads than what's in front of us we live in a society of double standards that's basically it, we say one ting, do another, we contradict ourselves, our movements have ulterior motives, you cannot be nice to a someone without them thinking "that there is a price attached to your kindness"...we try to put a value on everything, even love -- there's no trust at all why won't women be upfront with us guys?...why? (Because they suck, primarily. I'm sure there have got to be other reasons, but I think that's the main one. -- NG) enough of my bitching, all i can say is your site comes off somehat biased in way (in a feel-good sorta way, a way where your letting off steam...A LOT of steam)...many people could get your definition of "nice" sorta mixed up...you could make your definition of "nice" more clear and direct, as nice could mean many many things (True. It's kind of hard to define. Some women seem to define 'nice' as 'will give and give and give and ask for nothing in return.' Phooey! Being 'nice' seems to carry a very high price tag indeed. -- NG) -- but your approach to use your life experiences is great...i know a lot of my friends who could empathize with you, the situations you were in are not yours alone, the way you come off biased is when you attack...you could do better by informing us, but i'm not gonna tell you how to do your job (since your doing so damn well already) (Heh, of course I'm biased. I'm openly biased- I've already said flat-out that I think women suck. That's the title of the site. But I appreciate you giving me room to do this stuff the only way I know how. -- NG) about that site heartless-bitches.com and their rebuttal to your statement -- i found their attack completely careless (a site that says heartless bitches? wow that adds a lot of validity to their statements...who the fuck am i hearing this from? why of course! a heartless BITCH!!! BITCH!!...that's degrading to women and themselves, what? we niceguys hate ourselves?, we love who we are, we are not losers, we are helplessly romantic, we have jobs, we have social lives, -- its just our mannerisms towards you come off as odd BECAUSE you feel we should treat you like shit and love you 5 minutes later, or we should wait you hand and foot (well maybe that's not the case but you get the point)... (No, a bitch just sees 'nice' as equivalent to weakness. Hitler and Stalin shared the same opinion, by the way. -- NG) well its good you call yourselves bitches because that's all they'll ever think themselves as, too good for you! -- we niceguys DO take action, rather than just say we're "nice"...actually all of our "action" has been repelled by your self-absorbed attitudes towards us...we are the guys who ask you out for coffee...we are the guys that give you the time of day, we shower you with white lies that its not your fault, that it will be ok, that you look nice in that ridiculous outfit and even fool outselves into thinking its amusing (sometimes we believe our own lies), we kindly walk you to your door, to lunch, to dinner, we bring you presents, we are the guys that write those poems because its straight from our heart...and thoughts and love is all we can give, we are humble -- we are very flawed characters in a tragedy in which we cannot die) well your "preemptive strike" to them was very well done (Thanks! I thought I might as well take the striking initiative. -- NG) you should post that up separately so everyone could find it and examine it clearly...it will bring more validity to your statements. (And so, I did. -- NG) good luck in japan... (This was awesome to read! Thanks! -- NG)
Pandora, 'a girl', decided I needed some patronizing advice: I stumbled
across your site and haven't had the time to read it all, but I tought it'd be
fun to write you, 'specially since you encouraged ppl to do so on your page ;)
1-The single person tries desperatly to get a date on that night so they don't feel so miserable, in most cases they either dont (and fall into the #3 category) or they spend an akward evening full of long silence and fak smiles. 2-The indifferent person who actually doesn't care that it's V-Day, that's actually very rare, although lots of people fake it... 3- The single person who spends the night alone kinda depressed, trying to forget that it's V-Day and that they are lonely. 4- The non-single person who spends a sad V-Day, whatever the reason (too high expectations not met, their loved one can't make it or forgot about it, etc.) 5- The happy one who spends a nice Valentine's Day with the one they love and who loves them back. I usually fall into the #3 category, 'specially this V-Day I stayed home being miserable, I wasn't sad big-time but I still had this bad feeling inside, can't really explain it, but I was pretty lonely. Kinda pathetic huh? But it's my life and I accept it as such. (No need for five categories. Howabout this: two categories. Those who hate V-Day and the irritating, slap-worthy jackanapes who enjoy it. -- NG) I
think you shouldn't lose faith in women, you're just being mean because you don't
have what you want. (Christ on a cracker. *Holds head in
hands.* She just doesn't get it. -- NG) Would you still be making
your website if you had a nice girlfriend? Even if all other women on earth were
bitches and stuff, if you had found the right one for you, you wouldn't care anymore
about making that site, right? And here comes another "maybe", maybe you're not looking at the right-kinda-girl. Just like not all men are the same, not all women are the same either. There's tonz of girl looking for a nice guy, but nice guys tend to befriend girls who don't appreciate them at all. Maybe you just need to keep searching if you actually want to find the right one for you. And perhaps, not search the same area. (Sigh. And the 'helpful' advice just keeps coming. I'm starting to wish she'd go play hop-scotch on the nearest highway. -- NG) I love japanese culture, I wish I could go live there as well, it'd be really nice (exept I don't speak japanese, I only know a few japanese words from watching anime). You seem to think all US girls are evil and to idolise Japanese girls, or girls from other culture or whatever. I think that's plain stupid! I'm sure there's some Japanese bitches, just as I'm sure there's some nice american girls. So far, I hope you'll have noticed I haven't
said anything bad about your website (Er, wait a tick...
back-up to last paragraph. She said something about how 'stupid' it is that I
'idolise' Japanese women- wasn't that saying something bad about my website?
Howabout the bit where she insinuates that I complain too much? Or where she suggests
that this is all just a tortured 'cry for help'? Hmmph, she actually has
said a few negatively critical things about my website so far... -- NG)
(I'm a girl by the way). (I kind of guessed that by now.
What with all the 'you must change to please us' advice she's been spouting. --
NG) I don't think you're entirely wrong, maybe exagerating a bit but not
fully wrong that's for sure. You seem to think all female american are brainless, my tought is most american are brainless period! From my few travels to your country that's what I noticed anyway. (No wonder aol is soo popular there...) (Yup, a regular Alexis de Tocqueville, she is. -- NG) Well anyway, it's getting
kinda late and you probably got bored and stopped reading this email a while ago
so I'll end it here. I sincerly wish you the best even if I don't know you, because I sympathize with your kind (the nice one that is). (It's so wonderful to hear from an expert on where my true problems come-from. Why do I envision her congratulating herself after writing this? -- NG)
Ooooh, this is gonna be funnnnn... But at this point, I think I'm repeating many things I've already said in the past... >I stumbled across your site and haven't had the time to read it all, but I tought it'd be fun to write you, 'specially since you encouraged ppl to do so on your page ;) Well, I appreciate you taking the time to write. I also appreciate you
not attempting to cajolingly list all the ways that my behavior makes me unattractive
to women and how I should seek-out nice women only- hmm, wait a tick, that pretty
much is EXACTLY what you did. >First I'd like to appologize for my English and my spelling, English is my second language and I haven't fully mastered it yet, 'specially since I don't get the chance to practice that much. + I'm kidna tired (and bored) so this email is probably not gonna make much sense! It's also probably gonna be like your site:"disorganized, random, stream-of consciousness stuff..." like you said it so well ;) Well, that's
fine. And there's really no major problem with your English as far as I can see,
and I'm courteous enough to never make an issue of people's spelling or people's
English- especially if they're not native speakers. >Well, I think neither NiceGuy nor EvilGuy have a future. Let's start with EvilGuy, women DON'T actually like jackass, and while some tend to always go out with those, most learn from their mistake and eventually choose better and nicer men. Yes, but often they've popped-out 1 or 2 kids by then. In terms of human life, it's a rather costly lesson for those women to learn. >NiceGuy doesn't have a future either, because (unfortunaly) it is in the human nature to take advantage of others when it comes easy. I don't think it's specific of women to do that, guys do it also. Oh, spare me the hackneyed 'human-nature insight' please. I KNOW that guys do it also. Only difference is that individual women have tricked themselves into sincerely believing that they individually don't do it as part of their lifestyle. >When someone is TOO nice, others will take advantage. Of course I think it sucks, but it's reality and unless one plans to change the world they will have to live with it! No, it's not reasonable to change the world- and what you've just said betrays a passive attitude towards life. George Bernard Shaw once said that whereas reasonable men change their lives to suit the world, unreasonable men change the world. Therefore, all change for the better must come from unreasonable men. >You seem like a smart guy (or at least you claim it), why not be in-between? Yes, I'm good at CLAIMING to be smart. >Don't be an asshole but don't let others take advantage of you either! I don't think I got all the answers, I'm actually not too good with relationships myself, but that would be my advice to you anyway. Here's a nifty idea: if you're not good with relationships, then don't give advice on the topic. >Be nice but not too nice, don't go to extremes, learn to see the shades of grey between the light and the total "darkness". I put darkness in quotation marks because I actually hate this word, guys who always talk about their "darkside" or the "Evil" inside them tend to get on my nerves. Heh,
yes, the whole 'light vs. dark' duality is a little shop-worn. I don't really
believe in the existence of evil, but I believe in using 'evil' as a purely descriptive
term. I actually DO see the world as a shade of grey- the difference between 'good'
and 'evil' or 'light' and 'dark' simply being how much consensus one can rally-about
a given ethical point. But for the illustrative purposes required by my web-site,
I think that fore-mentioned dichotomy will do just fine strictly as a literary
device. >Some people have got to stop making a big fuss about everything that happens to them and being so melo-dramatic all the time, it's really annoying! Yeah, I'm a real drama-queen. >Sorry, I'm kinda getting off-topic here... As I was reading your page I tought of some of the guys I know. You remind me of them I guess. And if there's one thing that bugs me it's that they complain all the time, about how their life is miserable, about their "darkside" and everything. Hey, why not recommend to them that they drop-by
the site? They might appreciate what I have to say. >Personnally, I don't think there's such a thing as a "dark" side, you're just you, and you make it whatever you want to make it. Exactly- there is no incentive for any man to not treat American women like shit. Women always tend to gravitate towards the men who'll treat them the crappiest- there's nothing you can possibly say to make me believe otherwise. Frankly, I would get a LOT more satisfaction from tying women to railroad tracks than from saving them. So, I AM making what I want to make of it. >Anyway, still off-topic.. getting back to your page, I hate V-Day too, not as much that I would want to hand out black hearts with stupid messages on them, but I still hate it. One day, you might yet hate it enough to hand-out black hearts. Don't knock it 'till you've tried it. >Most people are miseralbe at Valentine's Day, that's why I think it sucks. X-mas and Thanksgiving are about nice stuff, giving and caring, or thanking or whatever (I don't celebrate thanksgiving). I think there's 5 kinda people on V-Day and most are unhappy. >1-The single person tries desperatly to get a date on that night so they don't feel so miserable, in most cases they either dont (and fall into the #3 category) or they spend an akward evening full of long silence and fak smiles. >2-The indifferent person who actually doesn't care that it's V-Day, that's actually very rare, although lots of people fake it... >3- The single person who spends the night alone kinda depressed, trying to forget that it's V-Day and that they are lonely. >4- The non-single person who spends a sad V-Day, whatever the reason (too high expectations not met, their loved one can't make it or forgot about it, etc.) >5- The happy one who spends a nice Valentine's Day with the one they love and who loves them back. >I usually fall into the #3 category, 'specially this V-Day I stayed home being miserable, I wasn't sad big-time but I still had this bad feeling inside, can't really explain it, but I was pretty lonely. Kinda pathetic huh? But it's my life and I accept it as such. Phew, I was worrying that you were about to expertly categorize ME and
perhaps diagnose what makes me such a pathetic loser. >I think you shouldn't lose faith in women, you're just being mean because you don't have what you want. It's just 'sour grapes'? Thank you Miss Aesop,
but no. (Since you've said English isn't your first language, I might have to
explain what I mean by 'sour grapes' as the equivalent expression might not exist
in your native tongue. I'm NOT trying to be condescending, I just want to make
sure I'm understood properly.) But that's not a very apt comparison of my situation at all. No, here's a far better interpretation: Imagine a fox who HAS managed to get samples of grapes from the vine- and they've mostly turned-out to be sour. In fact, most of the other foxes around him have had grapes from the same vine- and those grapes also turn-out to be sour. More and more, the fox sees data and testimony indicating that the grapes on the vine tend to be sour. Then one day, the fox looks-up at the grapes hanging there and says "you know why the hell am I trying to get those grapes when I already *know* that they're mostly sour? I ought to find an apple tree instead." >Would you still be making your website if you had a nice girlfriend? Probably not. C'est la guerre. >Even if all other women on earth were bitches and stuff, if you had found the right one for you, you wouldn't care anymore about making that site, right? Probably. But being a woman, she'd probably be using-up all my spare time by demanding that I buy her stuff when I'm not working my ass-off to pay for it all. So I wouldn't have time for web-sites. >I'm just extrapolling here but maybe it's just a cry for help? Hoping that some girl will read it and want to go out with you? Or maybe in a less self-involve way you hope some girls will read it and be nicer to the guys in their area. Well, I think you're incorrect on the first part, Dr. Freud. But you're entirely correct on the second part. It's not a cry for help- it's more of a set of opinion-pieces in hopes that some women might reflect on their own behavior. Sadly, I don't think too many women will ever change their behavior- they've got no compelling reason to stop being selfish, other than the principle of self-improvement. A principle they clearly don't seem to believe in anyway. >And here comes another "maybe", maybe you're not looking at the right-kinda-girl. Just like not all men are the same, not all women are the same either. There's tonz of girl looking for a nice guy, but nice guys tend to befriend girls who don't appreciate them at all. Maybe you just need to keep searching if you actually want to find the right one for you. And perhaps, not search the same area. Uh, well I *am* leaving the country very soon Look, I don't want dating advice from you or anyone else, thank you very much. The fact of the matter is, your advice also might sound good, but it is nearly impossible to put into practice. All you're saying is 'find a good woman.' Well, a lot of men will agree with me when I dare to say that most women generally have a serious deficiency when it comes to their ability to volunteer anything good; she mostly thinks all she has to do is show-up and try to look pretty. If there are good women out there, they're largely unavailable. >I love japanese culture, I wish I could go live there as well, it'd be really nice (exept I don't speak japanese, I only know a few japanese words from watching anime). You seem to think all US girls are evil and to idolise Japanese girls, or girls from other culture or whatever. I think that's plain stupid! I'm sure there's some Japanese bitches, just as I'm sure there's some nice american girls. 'Idolize'? Where
exactly do I idolize Japanese women? >So far, I hope you'll have noticed I haven't said anything bad about your website (I'm a girl by the way). What about that bit back there when you accused me
of stupidly idolizing Japanese women? Or the bit where you suggest that I complain
too much? Or that I don't like American chicks just because I can't have them?
Weren't *those* supposed to be negative things about my website? >I don't think you're entirely wrong, maybe exagerating a bit but not fully wrong that's for sure. I don't think I'm entirely wrong either. Sure, I exaggerate a bit here and there, but I'm not entirely incorrect about the things I say either. In fact, I might even go so far as to say that the vast majority of the things I say just might have truth in them. >I'm not from the US so I can't talk about american girl, but I think it's pretty much the same everywhere.. I have to disagree with you, I don't think women *are*
alike everywhere. >women have found an advantage and are using it, after decades and centuries of oppression, can you blame them? God almighty, spare me the whole tired 'women
are victims' speech. Women are not victims of male oppression; they've
traditionally had a specially-protected and privileged status in the eyes of men
because it is men who competed to benefit women and not vice-versa. >I'm not really a full-feminist, but I do believe in equallity Heh, so you're a three-quarter-feminist? A half-feminist? A part-time feminist? You pick and choose what bits of their already-inconsistent ideology to believe in? You only believe in their ideology when it's convenient for you to do so? Explain to me how that works. Are you the type of self-contradicting woman who rants about how society needs to give her equal standing, but expects her husband to pay for her house and groceries? >(how the heck does that spell?!) 'Ekwalitee', because you and I sure as hell aren't thinking of the same thing, as you've demonstrated by your own statements. Since you're obviously not thinking of the fair and equitable behavior that actual equality involves, I'll have to suggest you use the alternate spelling 'bullshit'. >and that women should be respected and treated farely. Right now, I think the scale has fallen on the women side, and I know we're taking advantage of it. Wait, you only THINK the scale has fallen in favor of women??!?! I've given a dozen examples of how it has *factually* fallen too far on the female side!! And yes, you ARE taking advantage of it. I'll be damned if you'll actually do something about your own behavior now that you've acknowledged that you know that you women take advantage of the system. You're plainly too-ready to rely-on your gender's lie of 'victimization' to justify how you perpetuate injustice. How the FUCK is it you are a victim when your life-span is longer than that of the men around you? Explain to me how that one works! Bah, no wonder I say your kind sucks! 99% of you are clueless! >It's politically incorrect to disrespect women now, sexual agression has become an advantage that women can invoque (and they over-use it). I've already said all that elsewhere on the site, but I'm glad we agree on it. >But let's not forget that it used to be common that a boss would take advantage of it's secretary and she couldn't do anything or else she would be fired, and we're not taking so long ago.. Ok, so for once the scale is on our side, can't we appreciate it while it's there? Not if you're truly for 'equality', and you're
plainly not. Okay, let me get this straight
if my great-grandfather beat-up
your great-grandmother 80 years ago, you want to have the 'right' to seek revenge
on ME? Is that the principle that you're invoking? It sounds like you're advocating
'get-evenism' across a VERY wide gulf of time. >About the party section of your site,
I think lots of women like to call themselves feminist, but they still want the
guy to make the first move. >I'm saying this from my own experience and I know I'm not the only one. I'm too shy to go say hello to a guy I don't know at a party (which isn't a really good example cuz I don't go to partys but anyway, you probably get my point). 'I
think lots of women like to call themselves feminist, but they still want the
guy to make the first move.' According to your last sentence, I'm glad you
tacitly admit that those women include YOU. >You seem to think all female american are brainless, my tought is most american are brainless period! From my few travels to your country that's what I noticed anyway. (No wonder aol is soo popular there...) Heh, well I have to agree with that. Well, not ALL American chicks are brainless, just an astoundingly large proportion of them. Yes, many Americans ARE clueless. I don't think there's any other first-world country on the planet where the public schools and mass-media dumbs-down the population to such a huge extent. The intellectual content of evening television is about as low as it is possible to get without actually serving whiskey to the viewers. And American women are dumbed-down and unhinged incredibly so- as evidenced by how many of the best-educated and supposedly 'intelligent' U.S. women can rant on and on about their oppression when they are clearly not oppressed. Is that brainless or what? >Well
anyway, it's getting kinda late and you probably got bored and stopped reading
this email a while ago so I'll end it here. I
didn't do anything mean, except respond to your letter in a completely honest
and unrestrained fashion. Women are generally insensitive to men's needs anyway, so it sort of dulls their own ability to determine whether or not they do anything bad to men. The general idea in society is that only women are the ones who need special protections and men have to watch their own backs. Naturally, that sort of environment doesn't breed women who listen to whether or not men are happy and they spend most of their time utterly desensitized to what men are thinking. Am I understood? >I sincerly wish you the best even if I don't know you, because I sympathize with your kind (the nice one that is), Gee, thanks for deigning to sympathize with 'my kind', and thank you for writing. I'm not out for sympathy. I'm out to succinctly illustrate why I think women suck. If I've helped inspire you to seriously give thought to your own behavior, then I've achieved something. I hope that I have. But somehow, I highly doubt it. (Ugh! Why do I feel like banging my head against a concrete floor now? -- NG)
Hi Niceguy, I completely empathize with you. I'm a "Niceguy" myself and, therefore, almost a confirmed bachelor... I'm wondering - have things changed for you at all? Surely you must have found *one* nice girl by now and have some sort of a relationship.... Am I wrong? Am I completely off-base or could I possibly be correct in my belief that the so-called "nice girl" is nothing but a myth?? The story about the party was great. I completely relate to that. At my old job back in Jersey, after the Christmas party, I went to a local bar and hung out. Even though I was 'there' - sitting at the table - I was not a part of the scene. When there was conversation, the 3 other people (1 guy and 2 girls) talked to each other. The girls made no effort to include me in the conversation. One of the girls from my team started dancing with this schumk and, all the while, looked over at me, seeing I was jealous. She knew I liked her and didn't even offer to dance with me. Of course, she was hanging all over the other guy. Where was I? Sitting right at the table to the left of them. This was a small bar. They were dancing literally not a foot from me. This same girl by the way, only 2 years out of college, was okay with hanging out at the house - or should I say 24-room MANSION of a Partner in one of the Big 5 accounting firms. He was divorced from his wife and here's this kid trying to get ahead and get a piece (or 'pieces' for all I know of him). No kidding. He drives a BMW and lives in a 24-room mansion in North Jersey. She got herself invited to a hockey game (personal skybox no less) and then to his place for diner afterward and maybe breakfast for all I know... "$$$" "Cha-CHING!!" (Ahh, Enron accountants... -- NG) You are right about American women. They only think of themselves and it's all about them and what they can get from a guy. Simple. They're predators. They also have an easy life. A man just can't go latching on to some woman for support. It simply *doesn't happen!!* All these girls do is party and have fun. That's all they NEED to do. They know they'll eventually find some "sucker" - a "money man" whom they can then manipulate by getting into his head and control. 2 more examples: I have a lot of debt from studying Law and my MBA. My net worth is actually negative. I have never driven a Saab in my life. At my last job, one of the female security guards - yes, that's right - just sits behind the glass window all day - drove a Mercedes. And another girl there - a low-level admin clerk got a 2000 Saab from hubby to drive. Do you think a MAN could pull that shit with a woman?? HELL NO. At my firm in Jersey, another Admin broke up with her husband and, miraculously 6 months later, is dating a dentist. Sickening. They don't need to "OWN" the asset. As long as they have the "USE" of it, it's just as good. Besides, they make the trade-off knowing they are in control in the relationship OR the guy is just a "sucker". Predators, all of them. (He's right- for a woman, it's not a question of ownership, it's a question of access. Access to the guy's balls, that is. -- NG) I know I sound bitter, but if I
didn't have somewhere to live or needed help or just wanted gifts showered on
me, do you think any WOMAN would hook me up Fuck em all. As a last anecdote, I recently talked to a guy that makes $30,000/MONTH (Yep) from his Internet business. He said his wife hasn't slept with him in 8 years. She yells at him and the kids constantly. Of course, she doesn't work. That's the MAN'S job. You know, "support me and my bitchyness...." Anyway, he had a fight with her and mentioned divorce. INSTANTLY, she said something like, "I'll take half of what you own...." Ruthless. (*Nod* Vicious. -- NG) He's got her, though. She has run up $25,000 in credit cards from department stores (no job mind you...she got credit because she's married to HIM - "household income"...) and is no looker. Also, she's older, with kids. "Damaged goods." Still, she takes out her misery readily on him and the innocent kids. Not happy BECAUSE she's NOT IN CONTROL. Please keep posting while you're in Japan. Things might be different, but the women there are "westernized" to a great degree now. Besides, as you said, a woman is a woman. Can nurture win out over nature?? It is an interesting experiment indeed. Remember, "single" isn't necessarily bad....
My paraphrased reply: Yikes, thanks very much for writing. >I'm wondering - have things changed for you at all? Surely you must have found *one* nice girl by now and have some sort of a relationship.... Am I wrong? >Am I completely off-base or could I possibly be correct in my belief that the so-called "nice girl" is nothing but a myth?? Heh, well, I'm only a few weeks away from leaving the country, so we'll see how things turn-out. Do I think that the 'nice girl' is a myth? That's a good question. I think 'nice girls' DO exist in large numbers. But then, something happens- they turn into women. The nice girl disappears and she morphs into something very insidious. I have met nice women, but not many of them are originally from in the U.S. I think there are some nice women in the U.S., but they tend to fall for assholes because they think that they can 'change' him into Prince Charming. Naturally, we all know that will turn-out. But thank you very much for your moral support... and the stories you sent about those wives- whoa. They all sound oddly typical. If my sister and her Hubby ever got divorced, you'd better believe that she'll be keeping their house. She'd also probably take perverse joy in seeing him live in a refrigerator carton. Thanks for your contribution! -- NG
LordBelial (a guy) writes: Howdy stranger, Got referred to your site by another disgruntled male on a forum far away. I must say I was pleasantly suprised: by the title I expected it to be a "Man, chicks suck, eh! They're like, all stupid!" page, but instead it's a quite intelligent piece into which some forethought has obviously gone. (Heh, glad somebody thinks so. -- NG) I am fortunate to live in Australia and haven't met any American ladies here (yet). In fact, from your writings at least it seems American women are absolute succubi! Surely they're not that bad! I say this because I know quite a few ladies here (not too many, mind, my single sex high school education stunted me in that area) and they're not nearly the bitches you make out most of the women you meet to be. They (mostly) respect men as their equals, something I am grateful for (but really shouldn't be, it should be a given). Many of them are caring about men and they are Nice. Most of them make the effort to go out with Nice Guys. In fact some of them are straightforwardly lovely, kind and considerate. Having said that, they still demonstrate many of the agonizing traits I've known for years, and only recognized when I saw then on your site. They expect too much, complain too much and use their womanhood to get past obstacles. They also demonstrate an irritating habit of shying away from intelligent discussion, which frustrates me as I know they're quick and wise individuals, well capable of holding their own. Urg. Oh well, can't expect the world I suppose. I have to say that I disagree with your logic somewhat though, because you say that girls are only attracted to jerks. I'm not too nice, but I'm not attracting women. In fact I have the joyous advantage of invisibility in that area. Hmm. I'm thinking about becoming a professional assassin for a career, perhaps that can spur on both my financial and romantic lives. Appreciate that although your love life hasn't seemed too great by your reckoning, there are many others who'd very much like to enjoy your life. I completely fail with women, so at least you can take solace in the fact that you are far better at this game than some. Jeez, this is rapidly becoming a pity-party. Sorry. Best of luck in your adventures in Japan, hope you meet a lovely lady there. Please keep updating your site though and I'll send it off in the direction of a few pussy-whipped friends of mine...
My Reply to LordBelial... Thanks for writing... THE Lord Belial? He usually contacts me by stepping-through a flaming portal in the basement instead of via email. He says it's more 'personable'. Grin. >Got referred to your site by another
disgruntled male on a forum far Heh, well, I can fake intelligence every now and then. Thanks for saying, though. >I
am fortunate to live in Australia and haven't met any American Well, *I* think they're that bad. Most American men will tolerate them if the sex is good... but when you're getting no sex, there's not much to appreciate. >They
(mostly) respect men as their equals, something I am grateful for Well, that sounds dandy. >Having said that, they still
demonstrate many of the agonizing traits No. But it's never a good idea to lower standards. I like to set high, yet achievable standards. >I have to say that I disagree with
your logic somewhat though, because Oh, yes. International
hit-men of mystery and intrigue always get the babes... Ooh, or you should assume
the alias of a saucy, saber-wielding, devil-may-care highwayman! I think it's
fair to say so far: American women are mainly attracted to jerks. I'm sure Australian
women have a distinctiveness of their own that sets them apart in a nice way.
>Appreciate that although your love life
hasn't seemed too great by Heh, well, that's always good to hear. I poured a lot of effort into trying, and that's probably why. >Jeez,
this is rapidly becoming a pity-party. Sorry. Thanks much. --NG
Xiaoyu (a woman who clearly kicks ass) sends: First and formost. I'm a lesbian. But your site has spoken for me more than I ever can. I don't need to write you my stories because you know what it is. I think it is rather healthy to voice your opinion in all honesty. Many serial killers are troubled loners who have developed deep misogyny before they finally explode. I think it's great to put the last word of the NiceGuy out in the open before we finally decide to objectify women (which is what they asked us to do.) and retract all the respect that they did not earn. again, it is so nice to know that there are other people out there who suffers the same emotions and experiences. My salute to EvilGuy. Oh by the way, I'm asian. Good luck in Japan. Oh! One little advise: No matter what you are trying to run away from, you will not make it by moving to another town. The problem will always follow you around until one day you come up with the solution. I havn't found it. But, hey, a man can use a little bit of adventure. Be sure to write and let us know how things go. and really, good luck. (I was told that Japanese girls have real light pink pussies. Please verify for me. thanks. After all, they are only objects.) (That last line is sure a kicker! I'm certain a Japanese vagina isn't too much different from a non-Japanese one. And I'm quite eager to get to know the human being who is attached to the vagina of course. And I hope to treat them as more than mere objects. Oh, I think it's fair to say- as we corresponded, Xiaoyu was able to clarify that she is a lesbian who refers to herself as a 'guy'. She assures me, this is part of her own lingo. Regardless of what sex she is, she can write a damn interesting email nonetheless. -- NG)
I reply... Holy crap, your email was like a breath of fresh air... >First
and formost. I'm a lesbian. But your site has spoken for me more *Grin* I'm sure I can imagine. Well, I really appreciate you writing, and if you'd like to submit something in future, I'll be more than happy to read it. >I think it is rather healthy to voice
your opinion in all honesty. Many Thank you for saying. It's always of great comfort to hear someone say that to me. >again,
it is so nice to know that there are other people out there who Thanks again. Yeah, I understand that leaving the country isn't a good way to escape one's problems... it's a good thing that my life is relatively in order, otherwise I probably wouldn't feel comfortable jetting-off. >(I was told that Japanese girls have
real light pink pussies. Please *Grin* Well, I'll see what I can do.. Thanks very
much for writing, --NG (After this point, I asked her for a bit more clarification on why her past relationships would've given her these opinions. -- NG)
Xiaoyu Writes Back After Some Prompting: Imagine two people in the relationship are both female. Can you imagine that? The terminology in the community is "dyke drama." and drama it is. As you can tell, I'm also an honest, straightforward person not equiped with the drama gene. A well known lesbian joke goes: What does a dyke bring on the second date? Answer: an U-haul. This joke tells you how bad the "leaner" situation is in female-female relationships. I'd say it's much, much worse than heterosexuals. I declared to be a non-lesbian long time ago, not because I'm attracted to man in any way, but because I am so sick and tired of women and thier ways. Can you imagine that your only choice of dates are all man-hating raging feminist from hell? That's what I'm facing. I don't hate men. I grew up in all-male environments, so I feel more confortable being surrounded by men. In all my classes, only 10% a |