August Reader Feedback

How about a quick joke? Did you hear the one about the American chick who was so lousy, that the other American chicks actually noticed? (Ba doom BOOM!)

Heh, okay okay. That one wasn't so good...

But here was a statement sent from PianoMan (a former contributor): "It is very sad for me to read that most men of strong ethics and character are forced into a life of celibacy in the USA. One reader suggests that hiring a prostitute is a less stressful way to obtain sexual gratification. This assumes that a man can afford a prostitute ( I can't) and is willing to expose himself to various lethal STD's. Most men quickly learn that American women don't want prostitution legalized because official whores cut into their own profits.

Women have won the gender wars in the USA because they mostly control when they have sex. Women are being taught to deny sex to males who are ethical. When American women sleep with a ethical male they lose power and control. They have no one to blame but themselves if the relationship goes bad if they date a nice guy. Women are also being taught not to compliment unless they can gain money or power from that compliment. I used to lavish compliments on my girlfriends until I realized that it pained them to return a compliment to me...

...men's evolution has taught us to respond physically to aggression. Women realize that if they can render all physical aggression by men as "criminal" or a "mental disorder" they will effectively render males as worthless. I will give credit to women because they are using a very sophisticated form of subterfuge against men...

NiceGuy is fighting the good fight by going to Japan to meet women. If your stuck in the USA and have to be a mean, dishonest, loud, jerk to get women in bed then do it. Do not let yourself be rendered worthless by women. You are fighting a war. If you can afford a prostitute then by all means use a condom and go for it. If you can go to Japan, Russia, South America to get sex then do it..."

Thanks for that. I, however, wouldn't use a prostitute. Mainly because the disease factor terrifies me.

Sadly, I won't be able to check my reader feedback as often as I used to. If someone sends something that is dynamite, I'll post it within a month of receiving it. It's a shame, since I think so many people out there have great stories to tell.

Anyway, grab an order of baba ghanoush- here comes the August reader feedback.

Brent (A guy) writes:

Hey NiceGuy, I too have the curse of being a nice guy. I am going to tell you the story about the first and only time I fell in love. Before I proceed I would just like to say that I agree w/ almost every single thing you say. Very few people have the guts to write w/ such honesty and I applaud you for that. Your site has been very informative, and even inspirational in some ways. So without further ado, here's my story of heart-ache.

All my life I have been a nice guy, so of course it goes without saying that I've spent much of my life without female company. High school was terrible for me, I was overweight, shy, depressed, and had an appalling baby-face; I literally looked four years younger than my age. Due to all of these factors I never had a girlfriend in high school. Sadly I never went to senior prom; one of the saddest nights of my entire life.
A few months before I graduated I decided that I would try and change my life. I went on a strict diet and did a lot of running. I ended up loosing thirty pounds in three months. This wasn't the healthiest thing I could have done, but I felt much better about my self, and how I was viewed by others. I was no longer fat, and was in the best shape of my life. I wanted to go to college with a new look and a new attitude. Finally I would go to a place where women no longer played games, and would love me for loving them. (I was so naive.)
So the day came when I finally arrived at college. With-in a few days I had started hanging out with this girl, Jasmine that graduated from the same high school I did. (Funny how she started noticing me now, that I was considered more *attractive*.) At first I think the main reason she started spending time with me was because she didn't know anyone else on campus. After a few weeks I was becoming increasingly attached to her. We spent every moment together. We would eat breakfast in the mornings, we would study, have dinner together, my days consisted of being with his women, and I couldn't have been happier. She was an amazing person, beautiful smile, amazing eyes, intelligent (pre-med), great body, I mean she was near perfect in my eyes. On a scale of 1 - 10 I'd give her a 7, but with her personality she was easily an 8.5. I was the happiest I had ever been, finally I could spend time with a girl who was so caring... so I thought.
A fter a few months I noticed that my feelings had surpassed "liking" her. I had fallen for her, I was in love. When she was around I just felt so complete, all seemed right with the world. But I had yet to tell her how I felt. Everyone else could see it; her roommate would always comment on us, everyone saw a connection between us, BUT HER. I mean we would sleep (not sex) in the same bed and just stare into each others eyes all night, but she still thought we were no more then friends. This was beginning to hurt me, but foolishly I kept telling my self "it'll be alright, just stick by her side, she'll fall for you." (No, no, a thousand times NO! I can guarantee she won't. -- NG) I remember one time when I was laying in her bed in her dorm, and this asshole John came into the room. I really hated this guy, he was a known player and treated girls badly. But you'll never guess what happened next! she openly stated flirting with him right there. I was crushed, and left the room in anger. She couldn't even comprehend why I was mad, but her roommate Tracy ran after me to console me. How could her roommate know, but not her? She would always talk about other guys when she was around me, even when we would be holding hands. So I somehow forced that event out of my mind, hoping she was just being nice to the dick-wad.
Now Jasmine had a very troubled past. Her best friend had been killed, and things just weren't going good for her at home. Her parents were sickly, poor, and etc. So I was constantly acting as a free therapist for her. Many a night I would sit with her outside, and listen to her go on about her problems. Now I didn't mind being there for her, because I wanted to help, I really did love this woman. Whenever she had problems she would come to me. Somehow I twisted this into thinking that it meant she was "opening up" to me, and had interest in being more than just friends. I really felt like that. Love can turn even an Owl's eyes blind, and my vision isn't nearly as perfect. (Sorry about that, I'm big on poetry and what not, more on that later)
One night I decided I just couldn't stay silent any more. So I wrote her a very heart-felt poem on how I felt about her. (Poetry is about the only talent I have, some people say I'm very good, Poe' quality good... there words not mine. Several professors told me I should change my major to Lit... but enough of tooting my own horn.) So anyways I give her this poem one night, and she says she'll come up to my room when she's done reading it. So I go up to my room and wait... and wait... and wait some more. During all of this I'm nervous as hell; I don't know how she'll react. Finally she comes into my room, and she has tears in her eyes; it moved her. She sits next to me on my bed, and proceeds to thank me for writing it. We talk for a while, and she told me she never knew I felt that way. (I don't know how she couldn't.) Well she continues talking, and basically says she's not ready for a relationship at this time. I understood this, because she's been through a lot. And I stay the good friend that I am, and tell her I feel no less for her. So we spend another night lying in my bed talking. The whole time I was thinking it'll just be a little longer, before she finally is ready to start something with me.
So about five days later, she asked out the previously mentioned John. After just telling me she wasn't ready to start anything. He basically ignored her; I'm guessing he had another 20 girls waiting for him in his bed anyways. When I found out about this I was heartbroken, I didn't even want to see her. But I couldn't help it; I started talking back to her in a few days. And then she had the nerve to tell me that John had rejected her, not even caring about how I felt, or what she had said to me. I was beginning to realize that she didn't care about me as much as I thought. But I let this pass, and we end up spending a few more weeks in peace, enjoying each others company.
One day I get a call from her, and she tells me that she is sick and wants me to walk her to the clinic. I happily agree to accompany her; any time with her is good time, righhhht, right?? My school for reasons unbeknown to me has the clinic on the outer edge of campus, so if you're sick you gada walk a hundred miles in the cold, to hear them tell you to stay out of the cold. It's a beautiful system, really. So we had a nice little walk to the clinic and talked cheerfully. On the way back from the clinic she abruptly tells me that she has something to tell me. And out of no where she proceeds to tell me that she is going out with my friend Jim. I felt my heart die right there. I mean my entire mood just went down. I believe that on that day I did indeed die, I haven't been the same since. She was like "I just wanted to tell you, we are still friends right?" In my heartless haze I was just like "yea." After that conversation she never even bothered to call me again, some friend huh?
The days after she told me about Jim I felt the worst pain I've ever felt. I felt so lonely. I was so used to being with her I literally didn't know what to do. This was a pain like I had never felt before. It went beyond physical; my very soul had been killed. I loved her, but she never loved me, and it had become all to clear. I couldn't handle it. I didn't have any problems with Jim, he was a real nice guy, and I knew he would treat her right. But damnit it should have been me with her not him. After that my GPA dropped from a 4.0 to a 3.3. I started hitting the gym a lot, and hitting the bottle even more. From that day on I became your typical college drunk. I started hanging out with the frat guys, and just drinking about every day.
This all happened last year, I'm now about to enter my sophomore year of college. My heart will never be the same, but I have learned from my experience. You CAN'T change people; and you CAN'T make someone love you. I also learned that love will make you do some foolish things. I remember when I read your break up story about how you broke up with your ex. When I was reading about the things she was doing I kept saying to myself, "why is he still with her?" But I now know why. When someone is in love, they view the world from a different mind set. I was seeing and hearing what I wanted to see. My heart was controlling me, even when I knew it was wrong. I was willing to give up everything for this girl, who in the end didn't even care about me. I could add some more to this story, like how she dumped Jim, and went out with ANOTHER one of my FRIENDS, but I won't. Nothing else really needs to be said. Niceguy I love your site, somewhere out there, there had to be a nice girl waiting for guys like us; I can only hope.

(Yeah, I hope so too. -- NG)

Yates (a guy) writes:

I saw an aritlce which said almost word for word that 25% of young men in the UK lived entirely alone and had no female contact at all.

I'm going to check out the BBC web site as they have stuff dating back years in their search engine, including surveys, so I'll forward my findings on to you.

But it bears out with a lot of my friends. They all just ignore women completely, regarding them (by and large) as traitorous slags, totally untrustworthy, just after your money and totally without morals. Nice to have, like a DVD player or alloy wheels, but something you don't really need.

It's not something which seems to have had a lot of surveys done on it recently, and most surveys released in the UK.. well... a new law was passed recently that says that the Government (and good old 'Teflon' Tony) have to approve any research before the results can be made public. Censorship. Nice.

All men I know that are in relationships have only met their women through pure luck and no men I know ever initiate anything, with the simple attitude that "It's a waste of time", a deeply ingrained assumption of inevitable failure and humiliation, and kind of deep rooted cynicism towards women which has become so essential in maintaining ones sanity on those lonely nights. Getting a beer poured over your head or just ignored or insulted every time has a cumulative effect and the media indoctrination seems to be affecting men in their early 20s deeply now. They only bother when:

a) They're drunk
b) They're too lonely.

Drunkeness seems to be by far the most common trigger for a night on the prowl. Usually fail, but that's where objectifying women helps numb the pain.

And nobody ever flirts at work. Men and women have a good laugh, talking about nothing, but no man ever crosses that line as the crap about the sexual harrasment laws and how women 'don't want men to find them attractive (unless they say so and, naturally, men have to read minds)' has all been subconciously absorbed and moulded into the lifestyle of my whole generation.

This all explains the birth rate in the UK falling from 2.4 children per family to 1.6 in ten years. And it's still falling...

Myself, almost 30, I just don't bother because most women I've met seem totally screwed up regarding what they want and I have no desire to have to move mountains just for the approval of some pampered slut.

That leaves only the greasy Don Juans, the Cassanovas. They are the only ones left who have the balls to place their egos on the line in the dating game.

And women say there aren't any nice guys.

Well... The nice guys have mostly given up completely. I know loads of decent guys and they all get the friends treatment while the chicks bounce from one Lothario to the next.

It explains what all my female friends say though. They all say that there are no single men at all (that they can find). The fact that men have withdrawn from the dating circus baffled them. They really thought that the possibility of receiving female attention was the only thing men lived for.

These isolated single men were regarded by them as 'sad', 'wierdos who should get a life' and various other derogatory terms.

They didn't have the slightest understanding of why any of it happened.

They view men in such one-dimensional terms. The possibility of men abandoning dating was just totally confusing for them. They think that men only exist to be used by women. They think the world revolves around them (and the contents of their knickers). (Plus there is the benefit of slowly ransacking a man's wallet over the course of several expensive weeks of dating. -- NG)

Some women are not like this, but they are few and far between. Usually married.

When in a bar or club, the ladies score points according to how many men's egos they can puncture. Nice...

If the men were to withdraw, bearing in mind that there are more women than men in the UK and USA, when the biological clocks of the women my age start to tick... desperation? This is starting to happen and the results might get interesting in the next ten years.

Within the next decade, it may be women who do the asking and men who do the laughing.

(I asked for clarification on some stats. -- NG)

Yates follows-up...

Almost 30 per cent of households in Britain now consist of a single person living alone (BBC)

Between 1971 and 2000 the proportion of one-person households almost doubled from 17% to 32% (Guardian)

The UK Government statistics office website has huge numbers of surveys on women, but nothing specifically about men. ('Positive discrimination'..!! I think I'm going to puke...).

Read this: about the "great man shortage". It says everything really. There isn't a shortage, women are just narrowing their criteria to the point that no men fit the bill.
http://www.observer.co.uk/life/story/0,6903,676498,00.html
PS the attitude of this article.. arrogant bitch! I feel sorry for any guy who dates her!

(Well, I can tell that the author certainly feels a certain level of indignation that men aren't lining-up to beg her for marriage. If a man isn't attracted to her, then it must be that there's something wrong with him. When confronted with the possibility of her being unfit for marriage ("...today's modern single woman has evolved to the point where she is a very frightening unattractive prospect for the few sane and solvent single men who are left."), she states it sarcastically to make it appear unrealistic and she starts downplaying that idea as soon as she says it. If in-depth acceptance of that idea ever took-root in her mind, I'm sure she'd suffer a cerebral hemorrhage or something. Her sneering attitude would indicate that unsurprisingly, men probably wouldn't want to be around someone like her! ("...those Man things seem to be everywhere, cluttering the place up, making it look untidy") Isn't that a classy thing to glower? Isn't she so much more attractive to you now?
She does not want to seriously ask the critical question of whether or not self-absorbed women such as herself are actually quite unattractive. But she'd prefer only to tentatively allude to the issue, then dismiss it as painlessly as possible. It is the kind of treatment you give to an a-or-b proposition when you cannot stomach one possible answer and must direct yourself to the other conclusion, no matter how moronic it is. Or perhaps it is the mental equivalent of sticking a toe into a too-cold swimming pool and dashing-back into the soothingly artificial warmth of the hot-tub?
And when she says "There is no Man Famine. If anything, it's rather a case of a bounty of female self-esteem..." She is trying to show- no, not show- PROVE her superiority despite the fact she's clearly come-in last. Men are pathetic, cowardly losers! They are nonresponsive to me and therefore gutless idiots! Their penises are probably too small for me, anyway! Who needs 'em!? I'm just too darned great for any man to handle- that's the real issue here...
Whether or not she might actually be a repellent, brimstone-smelling banshee is not a bite that she is ready to chew. The dried-up hag clasps-at her self-proclaimed superiority like its some kind of sacred talisman-- in spite of the fact that it plainly does not work! -- NG)

Ashok (a guy) writes:

Hello niceguy. I know you're really busy so please don't trouble yourself to respond. God, it feels really great just getting this out of me.

My story is as follows:

So there was a girl that I had a profound crush on since grade school. She was quite literally the girl next door, or rather, down the block. But she always had a boyfriend, so that meant that I was quarantined to the 'friend zone'. "You're so nice. Such a great friend. A great pal. So much fun to be around in a
completely non-sexual way..." (alright I made the last one up, but she may as well have said it...) Then, right before our college freshman year, her then-current boyfriend dumped her. Guess who she suddenly had a ton of interest in? Yup. I didn't realize it at the time, but she had broken the glass.
Times were tough, she had to breakout the backup boyfriend. So we spent all our time (and lots of my money) together. Movies, pool hall, shopping, dinner, bedroom. The school year rolled around, and we went to the same campus. We arrived, and *within the first week* she was giving me the, "I love you like a
brother" speech. What!? Yeah, she dumped me as fast as possible so she could spend the night with her man-whore housemate, who cheated on her shortly thereafter. She later stated, "I knew that he was wrong for me, 'cause he warned me that he had a problem cheating on girls, but it's like that song in
Coyote Ugly, you know, 'baby, you're the right kind of wrong'." I looked at her and thought: My God, are you really that stupid?

She really was...

She attempted to 'put me back in the emergency box' so to speak, no doubt to be used again for money and dick at a later date, but I got free niceguy! I stopped talking to her, stopped returning her calls, emails, everything! And I swear, my life took the single greatest turn for the better as soon as I got away.

Free and clear of the bitch for five months, your friend,

Great site, and a healing experience for me personally. Thankyou so much!

(No prob! Thanks! -- NG)

iMan (a guy) writes:

Hey there,

I found your site recently, and I must say, it is a beacon of reason in a sea of American feminism and irrationality.
Anyway, I was reading the rant about the 12th grade bimbo who wrote the article about manipulating men... so I decided to browse that website to see if I could find more of her brilliant scriptures (I mean it's like Shakesperean poetry.) I found this one... you'll love this. (Idiot-women are slowly conquering the planet. That's got to be the only explanation... -- NG)

Have fun reading this article. To sum it up it says, "We fought the war to get equal rights, but now we want to be segregated from men." Ugh. This girl DOES deserve to be shot.

(Yup, she certainly doesn't seem to get any more intelligent with practice, does she? She simply doesn't know when to shut-up. Only the most extreme level of stupidity could give her such self-assurance. -- NG)

Alma (a female) writes:

Hey dude -

The type of woman you describe really is pretty awful - shrill, irrational, manipulative, insensitive. I do know a few women like this. But I'm a woman, and I know lots of women, and the vast majority of them are much more decent than you describe. (Or they do a good job of denying their bad points. Whichever. -- NG) I wonder if maybe you've just hit a rough patch, or are stuck in a place with lots of women who are below average. (Yes, I have to agree- it was an eight-year 'rough patch'... and the place I was stuck in was called 'America'. -- NG) I promise, the majority find the traits you describe just as disturbing as you think they are. Most of the feminist women I know really do seek complete equality - sexually, emotionally, but also in terms of responsibility. (I know exactly what my male readers are thinking right now... -- NG) If there were a draft, I would sign up. I buy stuff for my boyfriend about as often as he buys it for me. When we move furniture, I carry as much as I can. Try hanging out with women who are more certain of their own competence and their relationships with men - professional, intelligent, independent girls. You may have better luck. (You mean, professional and independent women like my ball-busting sister? My sister who once made repeated jokes to my face about my friend getting his brain splattered all over the kitchen walls? My sister who once quipped that the Jewish citizens of Europe got massacred at Treblinka, Babi Yar and Bergen-Belsen because of their own sheeplike stupidity? My sister who once proposed that we nuke Afghanistan as a warning to the rest of the Muslim world? You mean 'intelligent' and 'professional' women like her?? -- NG)

Sympathetic feminist, Alma

(Well, at least she believes what she says, anyway. But I don't have enough grains of salt to accompany Alma's words... -- NG)

Hale (a guy) writes:

Bravo. Your story is so much like my own. I was raised by women to be a "nice guy," and after having my heart ripped out and stomped on by women too many times to count, I've come to see things much the way you do. Funny thing is, now that they've completely destroyed the nice guy and I've come to respect women a lot LESS, only NOW do any of them show any interest in me. I think if I ever get married, it'll have to be to someone from another country. Too much of what you say is painfully true here in America. Not that I won't "take advantage" and sleep with them though. Thanks for a great site and don't listen to those femi-nazis.

(Heh, thanx! -- NG)

NM (a guy) writes:

after 3 wonderful years, and countless hours of what i thought pure bliss, i sit here writing to thank you for posting your site. i thank you because i was just thinking of what i was going to put on my own site, in order to give other guys a bit of fair warning. the thanks comes as this: you have saved me the trouble of getting the word out on how horribly evil (most) women are. im 20 years old, have left my family and friends for 'Her', have sold my home that i OWNED out right, and went against everything i wanted for MYSELF in order to please 'HER'. as of this moment, im alone, divorced, and broken. your words are black and white of what i feel. this may seem futile and selfish, but i find comfort knowing that I am not the 'only one' to have a devastated heart and mind. for this, i also wish to give thanks... 'Thank You'.

(No prob! -- NG)

Chronos (a guy) writes:

Hello Niceguy,

I've been a long time reader of yours, for many months now.

I discovered your site from a gaming message board, no less (as did a previous contributor, probably from the same message board.)

I like reading your site, and enjoy all your rants, and believe most of them to be true. I haven't had much luck with girls either.

I have an interesting statistic I saw on the news.

Did you know that there are more deadbeat moms than deadbeat dads?! (Actually, I think I have seen numbers to that effect somewhere, but I can't make a firm recollection of where. Anybody out there have a link to confirm this claim? -- NG)

Also, women who don't keep the child keep 60 percent of their earnings, while men only keep 48 percent!.. (I certainly hope these stats are accurate... And then of course there is the fact that divorced men have massively increased chances of suicide, too. These suicides, I suppose, are only considered a problem because they disrupt the transfer of income to the ex-wife, am I right? -- NG)

Just an interesting note I thought I'd include,

Keep up the good work,

(Thanks! -- NG)

Marie (a gal) writes:

Hi- you know, I was really getting into your page until you wrote a bunch of rude stuff about how fat American women are when after you came back from Guam. Yeah, you aren't attracted to us, but how low are you gonna sink into name-calling anyway?

My Reply:

How low will I sink into the depths of writing what I see? Gosh, I don't know...

Well, you are right: it's not nice of me. But sometimes, to be silent is to lie. Perhaps I should not state the obvious for the sake of sparing your feelings?

Yes, it's not nice to make fun of people's physical features. Of course it's also true that women accuse us guys of being smelly, hairy, lumpy, horny Neanderthals- but I guess that doesn't matter since making fun of male physical characteristics is always so gosh-darned hilarious!

But apart from voicing your opinions, I'm afraid that you haven't shown me to be wrong- only guilty of stating facts that you don't like. About your word 'rude'... who decides what is rude? Is there a committee or something? Or is it just you not being able to stomach certain observations? Like it or not, occasionally life is rude.

Consider this: on average, Americans are among the most overweight people on the planet. And, on average, they become more overweight each year. There is a bounty of data to back this up. Those data are so widespread and widely-quoted, they are more or less common knowledge. I can't quote any numbers right now off the top of my head, but ON AVERAGE, an American woman is heftier than her counterpart in Malaysia, Mozambique or Morocco. This is something which has passed into the realm of common knowledge.

Furthermore, on average, American females are (slightly) more overweight than American males. The American Heart Association (these are 1996 numbers, by the way... I don't have access to the 2001 or 2002 numbers at the moment) have stats breaking-down what groups are overweight by 20%: 32 percent of white males, 33.5 percent of white females, 31.5 percent of black males, 49.6 percent of black females. These numbers have actually gotten worse with the passage of time since 1996.

So, (statistically speaking), American women are not only fatter than the global average, they are also fatter than American males (statistically speaking). The leading killer of American women is heart disease, of which obesity is a major aggravating factor. The incidence of obesity-related illnesses such as diabetes, is higher among American women than the global average... the list of related stats goes on and on. I'm not saying that being overweight means that you are necessarily unattractive- but any way you slice it, being overweight just isn't healthy.

Yes, some people have inherited genetic or glandular conditions that are beyond their control. But as for others, the issue is a matter of diet and a sedentary lifestyle. Take your pick of whatever explanation is most palatable to you, but statistically not ALL overweight American chicks can have glandular conditions. It just isn't possible.

So, if I say that an American woman is chunkier than her Japanese counterpart, it is not an exaggeration. It is not a lie. It is not an insult. It is a FACT, gosh-darn it. Should I close my eyes and pretend that these things don't exist? Especially when a Japanese woman and an American chick are wearing swimsuits and laying side-by-side offering an incredible visible comparison? I can't force myself to not notice these things, no matter how much I look-away.

Apologies for hurting your feelings, but unfortunately the truth is a bitch sometimes. Don't shoot the messenger. Thanks for writing. -- NG

Sharpness (a guy) writes:

hey
My friend just showed me your website and to make it breif...you nailed the hammer right on the head with perfect accuracy!.....All girls that I know have either all of the qualities or most of them that you have described......Your web page is beatiful....I am also a nice guy who loses all the girls to other non-caring morons!....What the hell do girls see in these guys....and after they get dumped for some other bimbo...they just whine about the dude not caring....what the hell do they expect?!!!!.......Well i have to congratulate you for you website and i think you speak for all guys.....

(Thanks! -- NG)

Költa-Jaarve (a guy) writes:

Hello.

I think that the views expressed on your site should become more mainstream for the sake of healthy realtiosnhips in American society. I am not from the US (I am from Latvia), but I have dated (or tried to date) enough women in this country to realize that something is terribly wrong in the way American women treat men. When I go home, I feel like I am in heaven, because I can relate to women as human beings instead of some immature and unpredictable spoiled brats who hardly deserve the attention that they are getting. Well, they do deserve it here in the States, because there isn't anything better around. (I totally agree on the point: a factor as to why American women suck is the fact that men have limited alternatives to them. The smart way to keep men under your thumb is to strictly limit the spectrum of acceptable mating options open to their lives. -- NG) I don't know why the relationships between men and women are so bad in the States, but it would be worth exploring this matter.

In any case, thanks for putting in writing the thoughts that I have felt for a long time. At least I know that I am not alone in my thoughts. Take care and keep up the good work.

Költa-Jaarve

(It's always great to hear from someone who was raised in traditions well-outside those which westerners grow-up in. It often behooves us to get a view of our culture from the outside. An intercultural reality-check, if you will. -- NG)

LB (a guy) writes:

She agrees sadly. "Yes, I... I guess I did blow it. You're totally right." Don't get me wrong- I get NO pleasure from her misfortune. Not ONE BIT. (Quote taken from Cuckoos and Single Moms. -- NG)

That's okay NiceGuy. I get more than enough pleasure from it for the both of us. (In case you haven't read it, Kristi is one of those women who has already been used-up by assholes and expects me to fall in love with her now that she'll deign to date a man who actually works for a living. -- NG) Your site is right on the money. I think it will help many men (including me). As far as waking women up, forget it. They're hopeless. By the way, I have an appearance that is 1/2 thug, 1/4 artist, and 1/4 intellectual that women find hard to resist. Unfortunately, I am in reality a nice guy. When they put out their signals (often), I tell them that although I resemble your favorite type of thug asshole, I'm actually very kind, gentle and caring so lets just forget it right now. I'm sure you'd be very disappointed. Ya see that guy on the other side of the room? I know for a fact he just did 3 years in prison for assault. You'll like him! I can introduce ya if you want. I actually say this to these bitches and walk away. I'll be looking forward to reading your experiences with Japanese women, not that I have any hope. Good luck though, bro. Again, thanks for a great site.

(Welcome. -- NG)

Jharam (a guy) writes:

Why I gave up on relationships.

After the passing of my wife, the most beautiful person on earth to me, inside and out, I realised that to search for someone else was futile.

The downfall of society, the degrading of values, and simply, the chronically normalness of society, prevented me from being able to form any kind of meaningful relationship with anyone.

I am one who really never changed much in the way of what grown up society considers to be fun.

On the 'man' side, drinking beer, and watching sports, and generally getting in trouble, and being victimised by the Carole Normals.

On the 'woman' side, much of the same thing, being obcessed with the motif of being 'all adult and grown up', being victimised by the Bob Normals.

It is all just a mess now, Bob and Carole Normal are in this vicious cycle, he has to be the one to work work work and give Carole money money money.

Why does it have to be this way?

Why can't Carole go out and work also?

Maybe Bob could be the one to stay home and raise the children.

But no, its all the same boring idiotic stupid thing.

Bob must have no feelings, and be a pillar of strength! He must be 'in control' and 'in charge'! BAH!

Bob just can't have any fun that he used to when he was little, oh NO, WHAT WOULD THE NEIGHBOURS THINK??

Carole has to be this helpless little person under Bob, she can't do anything for herself.

Carole just can't bring herself to swing on the swings or colour with some crayons, WHAT WOULD THE NEIGHBOURS THINK??

I SAY SCREW ALL THAT STUPID TRADITIONAL RUBBISH!

Play in the sand, squash in the mud, slosh in the rain puddles, play in the rain, throw mudballs at the garden wall, to me, that is REAL fun.

Bob and Carole just CAN'T do that, they are TOO GROWN UP for that!

Sports on tv bores me, I like Rugrats, Rolie Polie Olie, PB&J Otter, and even Teletubbies, yes dangit, Teletubbies, if Carole has a problem with that, she knows where the door is, hope it DOES hit her in the scrawny little butt on the way out, and she can take her stupid scrawny salad-eating Evian-drinking no-butt boney ass somewhere else.

I'm on disability, I'm trying to find a good TV fixing job, but with the poopy economy, its impossible!

Anymore, its just all about money and what you have, BAH!

Well thats why I just forget it and do fun things, and forget dating, its dumb, its a waste of time, and there are better things to do like throwing mudballs at the garden wall, hey its fun, its not just for kids, you should try it sometime, its a great 'stress releever' to put it in growed up talk.

I am not going to let society bring me down, I'm going to have fun whether they like it or not, its not aginst the law and I hurt no one.

Dang Normals, they are so boring, shoving their man and woman idiotic gender roles on you, trying to make you (depending on your gender) a Bob or Carole Normal.

Thank you for letting me post this to your site.

(Heh, you fulfill the male gender-role by shutting-up and shelling-out dough! Whoopee, I love being a male. What a wonderful existence boys have to look-forward to. -- NG)

Delphia (a gal) writes:

Hello NiceGuy!

Only wanted to let you know that I have really enjoyed reading your rants, even though I'm female. Women and men both get a bad rap and need to give each other a break. Yes, the problem is more prevalent in Americans. Having traveled I'm sure that you find the attitude concerning sex and relationships differ quite extensively from other countries.

I can attest to the differences considering at a very young age tasted the benefits of a brief encounter with an Italian. Found it quite refreshing from American boys.

Well, I was feeling really down and your site definitely helped my mood. It just didn't help me to feel better for what I recently did to a wonderful guy who I consider a friend. (Oooh, the plot thickens... I wrote back and asked her for clarification on this point. -- NG)

Thanks,

Delphia,
Curly Redhaired Temptress of the South! (Ooookay. Interesting level of self-gratification inherent in that particular handle... -- NG)

She writes back, after I request clarification...

It's a very long story and won't burden you with all the details. (Yeah, I'd much prefer an oversimplified whitewash... -- NG)

It a classic story. A mutual flirtation between a senior in college and a married older woman. Promise, he started it. (I see. And we all know how much a woman's promise is worth, don't we? It's just so gosh-darned wonderful that this woman is utterly blameless for everything that happens around her... -- NG)

Besides being a student, he is also a bartender at a restaurant which we frequent while at the beach. We became fast friends over the last couple of years. My friends, husband and I became regulars during our week stay. Believe we ate there nearly every day for lunch or dinner. Hey, the food is great and can't get better service. Especially when the bartender wants to buy you drinks. (Being male, I'm afraid I've never experienced a bartender buying me drinks. -- NG) Anyway, the flirting definitely escalated this year for us both. I either had to jump into the fire or walk away... (How magnanimous of her to not cheat on her husband.. -- NG)

NiceGuy, thanks for sharing your stories with the world. It just proves, we all have bad days, Delphia.

(Yes, quite... -- NG)

Gorman (a guy) writes:

Dear Nice Guy
Don`t bother coming to the UK, you think american women are bad, they are rank amatuers compared to women in this country, even the legal system cannot see what they are doing to our country.
Feminazis forced the armed forces to make females do the same fitness training as males, now 8 times as many female recruits get medically discharged as male recruits. Now the armed forces are being sued by these injured females, not, take note, the feminazi orgaisation that forced this training upon them.
Thats just one example out of many

(Hmmph, doesn't shock me a bit. Well, you know what's going to happen, right? That the UK armed forces will be expected to further-compromise their training standards to allow more special exceptions to females. Yessir, they shouldn't have a defense-force made-up of physically capable people, should they? -- NG)

Bania (guy or gal, couldn't tell) writes:

Hey NG.

While I enjoy reading the site and have been randomly dropping in for a while now I've noticed something fairly disturbing about your behaviour outside of the states.

I mean sure maybe this was a once in a lifetime thing. While that does not make it in any way less reprehinsible or heck, justifiable in any way it can be perhaps looked on as an exception. (Well, yes. I was what the Chinese would call a 'hua-hua gong si'. Or what in English we'd call a 'cad'. But come on, isn't 'reprehensible' perhaps a bit strong to describe what I did? -- NG)

But now, the way you're acting in Japan seems to indicate that this is the NORM not the exception. I mean really, Fumiyo and Haruna is bad enough but who's this Saya you're having a drunken fling with? Jesus, while the Fumiyo situation might be one that you had no control over, can't you keep your penis in your pants at all? (In all honesty, I should admit that I spend most of my waking hours with my penis securely within the folds of my pants. I'd have long-ago been thrown in the slammer for indecency if I didn't. -- NG)

Now it's not like I have an up to the minute view of what's happening in your life, maybe you broke up with Haruna, but if you didn't then you should take a good long step back and maybe practice what you preach for a change (because your actions outside of the States can certainly not be seen as those of a 'nice guy'). (Hold on just a sec here! These women yearn to be with me! Their trembling bodies ache for me! What kind of cruel beast would I be to ignore their burning desires?? I'm providing a service of mercy, what could possibly be nicer of me than that? Heh, and NO I don't say that with a straight face... -- NG)

This was not what I had originally intended to talk about, what I had been wanting to point out was that it is perhaps unfair to those you are forming relationships with to have intimate details of their personal lives plastered all over the web for anyone to see. While I enjoy living vicariously through you it might be a better idea for you to hold off on the play by play details of your dates with the people that you (presumably) care about.

Anyway, good luck

(Yes, quite true. That's why I'm not going to post any more intimate details about Haruna and I. -- NG)

My (paraphrased) reply...

Well, you are right. I feel rightly chastised.

Truly, perhaps I love the women here a bit too much. And in the process of feeding my addiction, I have crossed a line somewhere.

Now, I want to make it clear that (at the time of writing) I was not in a committed relationship with either Haruna or Saya. I think we were still at a preliminary dating stage. If I wasn't, believe me, I would stick to only one. Sticking to one woman would also be a difficult choice because they are very wonderful people whom I value and respect quite highly.

As for me exposing the details of my private life… well, I am burdened by a commitment to the truth as I experience it. There is drama in my life and my writings would be kind of sterile without the warm & fuzzy aspects of human interaction that intimate details provide. And I do take whatever means necessary to safeguard the identity of the women who appear in my writings because I DO care about them. Very much. And I portray them in a respectful fashion because I think they are very respectable and precious women.

Thanks for writing, -- NG.

Hugo (a guy) writes:

American women are just like puppies, you need to be firm and discipline them to get the point across. if you don't they will not respect you and shit all over the house and chew on the carpet etc, and women(US) like dogs should only be rewarded on occasion when they do something special for you. withhold and reward. Anyways treat American women like dogs and you will be fine, any good Canine training manual will serve its purpose with a little improvising and some imagination you will get lots of good results. just ... The problem with women in the US really started around the mid 60's when the feminist movement coupled with the "New Man" it progressed and concluded with the current state of affairs. Men began to prop women up on pedestals, and men began to give up their self-respect and pride for the hopes of winning women over, this power eventually intoxicated women and made them what they are. Like they say, absolute power corrupts. You see the fault lies with men, they are the ones who allow this (and your history with scumbag is a perfect example or how you stated to have many female friends you did favors for tisk tisk.. bad idea) Men put the woman on the pedistal, men allow women the control, men permit being the victim. The only way this process will reverse itself will be when men behave like men and set limits, stop putting women on pedistal etc.. I find your site hillarious and entertaining, but you still seem a bit obsessed with US women even if you are now abroad and having a great time, by now you should be at the stage where you could care less to the point where even thinking about them or discussing them is not interesting anymore on your part. (Oh, but there's just so much to make-fun of... -- NG)

a few tips

#1, men and US women should not be friends, its either possible women to date/romance or nothing at all. stick to men if you want friends.
#2 Buy a Canine training manual, improvise and treat American women like you would treat an untrained dog.

(Heh, well, if the woman treats me respectfully, I see no reason to treat her like a dog. But sometimes I wonder... -- NG)

Jakob (A guy) writes:

Your site continues to educate and inspire. I've referred several friends to your site, and so far they're all of the same opinion about it that I am. But it sounds like everything's going much better for you in Japan, at any rate.

Now, a bit about myself. I'm only 5'7" but physically fit, given that I lift weights three times a week and practice a martial art twice a week. (By the way, this hasn't helped one iota with meeting women; so don't feel too bad about your decision to not join a gym.) I'm gainfully employed as an editor at a tech trade magazine here in New York City and have a Master's degree. And I've had a series of dating disasters like any other "nice guy."

I won't even discuss the nature of these disasters here for the sake of brevity and because any man visiting this site is already painfully familiar with them. Instead, I'm writing to warn nice guys that they're due for the same epiphany that many of this Web site's readers have already come to: the futility of their kindness. For nice guys who have yet to arrive at this conclusion or are in denial about this point, I urge you to consider other avenues for your time and money besides squandering your good will on an entire gender that could care less.

Recognition of this futility typically strikes the nice guy swiftly and painfully, with all the subtlety of a baby grand piano hurled from atop the Chrysler building. My own sudden moment of enlightenment occurred at a bar with a former friend whom I shall refer to as "Crappy Dan." Crappy Dan had a history of being an ass that culminated with his cheating on his live-in girlfriend while she was financially supporting him. And why was she supporting him? Because Crappy Dan couldn't be bothered to get a job. He was too busy honing his craft as a "writer" to do so? that, and bonking a "friend" of said girlfriend kept him rather occupied.

I tentatively agreed to resume my friendship with Crappy Dan several years later, and during that time we both turned to an on-line dating service. On the dates that I went on, I received insults to my mind and body that even make other women wince when I describe them. Crappy Dan, in his unemployed (well, ok? he's a "freelancer" now), chain-smoking, out-of-shape glory finds a nice woman within two weeks.

Crappy Dan then took it upon himself to introduce me to his new girlfriend at my favorite bar. And there she was, a genuinely nice woman, exactly the sort who I
would've loved to meet. Although she was by no means a classic beauty, her personality made her sexy to me. Soon I became furious? and extremely drunk on
many Bass Ales.

And that was it. A switch flipped inside of my head permanently. What we in the tech biz call a "paradigm shift" transpired that second.

I denounced Dan angrily, lamenting the fact that I had to endure months of torture at female hands while he could saunter over toward someone nice regardless of what stunts he pulled. I remember concluding my tirade with words to the effect of "Dan's found someone, and look at him! He's CRAPPY!!!" I added other vitriolic rejoinders that, well, frankly, I don't remember all that clearly before I stormed off. (Well, hey? I quit drinking permanently after that day.)

Since then, I've turned down Dan's offers to remain his friend, and I've become increasingly depressed at the sight and sound of most women. (Quick true story:
I came across three young women at an ATM. One of them smugly declared, "I'm not gonna take out much money. I'm gonna make some man buy me drinks!") (Doesn't almost every woman say or think something like that at least once a month? -- NG) But with the money I saved on buying dinners for women and treating them kindly, I've arranged an extended two-week vacation for myself in Australia. Perhaps there's a moral here somewhere. (Indeed there is. -- NG)

Take care,

(Thanks! -- NG)

Rudolf (a guy) writes:

congratulations man!

I came across ur site by chance. I haven't had the time to see everything yet but I think this is a commendable effort.

I am too a 'nice guy' continually screwed by lunatic women.

wanna hear about lovely ex who came all the way to the UK to live with me to dump me for a fucking German bloke?

wanna hear about knockout french woman who left me because I treated her too well (she said that!)

wanna hear about French woman (no2) who will not be with me because I respected her and did not opt for a one night stand thing?

wanna hear about Indian girl who loved to fuck me but would not go out with me because of religion?....

much much more to tell

Christ women are NUTs!

And we are stupid enough to still chase them around

and it is not only americans who are crazy. you should see the europeans, not to mention the subcontinent...

(Hee! -- NG)

Umberto (a guy) writes:

Hi NiceGuy.

I've been reading your site for about a year now (discovered it when it was mentioned on a message board that I used to frequent).

I'm a nice guy too, 20 years old, and I've had one girlfriend in my life. That's it. One. Haven't had a date in 4 1/2 years, haven't lost my virginity...you get the idea. Basically, my love life is about as empty as George W. Bush's skull. (Heh, show some respect for the man... he's one of the few prominent people I can name who takes pride in bragging about how he does not read many books. That in itself that takes some guts to say- even without the dual joys of a budget deficit at home and bloodshed abroad. -- NG)

I've had a few experiences with some crappy women, as well as some second-hand accounts. By the standards of the stories I've seen on this site, they're not too horrific, but they still did a pretty good job of destroying most of the hope I had in the female gender. Here's a few of the more entertaining ones: (Hold on, lemme get some popcorn... -- NG)

1). First (and only, so far) girlfriend I've ever had in my life. Met her at a church youth group retreat. We dated for a few months, a time span that included a Valentine's Day dance that we went to. I was madly in love with her; we didn't live right next to each other, and I had no driver's license, and even if she did she couldn't drive (physical disorder that prevented her legs from being used very well) and so every moment I spent with her, I treasured.

Well, a few days after I get up the courage to tell her I love her (to which she replied that she felt the same way) I get a call from her saying that she didn't mean what she said about feeling the same way. A couple days later, I call her, and she says she wants to break up. Why? Well, apparently, all throughout the course of the relationship, she "didn't know what she wanted." And did she think to bring that to my attention, so that maybe we could work something out that we were both comfortable with? Nope. She kept it inside, blurting it out during the breakup. That phone call was the last time I spoke with her.

2). Girl that I met during freshman orientation at college. It was a chance meeting; we just happened to sit next to each other at a mandatory meeting.

I start to talk to her, and I realize that she and I have a heck of a lot in common: both of us are anime freaks, we're in the same major. So I start thinking "wow, maybe she's what I've been looking for!" We end up going together to this comedian's show on campus (it was free, but hey, who says dates have to cost you money?)

A couple weeks later, she introduces me to a "friend" of hers, who happens to be a guy. I suspect that this guy isn't just a "friend" (a suspiscion that was confirmed months later), and right away this guy irritates me. At first I thought it was just jealousy, but nope - this guy really is that annoying. Well, I'm so hurt by this little show that I don't talk to the girl for a few months.

A few months later, I start feeling bad about avoiding her, and I apologize. She explains to me that she knew that I had a crush on her, and that she wanted to tell me she didn't feel the same way by GOING OUT WITH ANOTHER GUY IN FRONT OF ME! I'm dead serious, she said it that way! Oh no, forget honesty, lets just give the poor nice guy the run around! And guess what else happened? The guy she went out with turned out to be a total jerk! WHAT A BIG FUCKING SURPRISE!!!!!

Looking at her now, I wonder what the hell I ever saw in her. She has absolutely nothing that would make me even consider going out with her (heck, I'd avoid her entirely if it wasn't for the fact that she goes to my Live Action RPG group every weekend). (Ooh, LARPing! -- NG)

3). I had a roomate last year that got into a relationship that started out on the internet. He'd stay up all night talking to this girl online, and then when he got her phone number he'd talk to her all night on the phone (keeping me and the other two roomates up until they finished).

One night, that particular roomate and another roomate are playing a game of "Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six" on their computers. Just as they're finishing up a game, my roomate's girlfriend calls. To free himself up to talk to her, he just lets his character die, after which the computer says "Mission Failure: Your team was wiped out" (verbally, not just in text). Well, his girlfriend hears the computer's verbal message over the phone, and she verbally rips my roomate a new one because of the video games! Never mind that it was just ending; if he was playing video games when she called, it's a class A felony in her book apparently! And believe me, she was yelling; I could hear her screaming emnating from my roomate's cellphone from across the room. (Uh... what? Is that really something worth screaming-over? Ugh. -- NG)

4). I was in a chat room on AOL once in a room that was reserved for members of a message board that I frequent.

At some point, this girl starts talking about how sensitive she is about her weight, and how she doesn't like jokes being made about it. Ok, sounds legitimate, right?

Well, later on in the conversation in the room, that VERY SAME GIRL starts talking about a guy friend of hers who wants to date her. You know what she said? She said that she didn't want to date him because, in her words "I like him, but he's physically repulsive to me." She said that he's a hundred pounds overweight or so.

How's that for hypocrisy? She doesn't want to be judged by her weight, and yet she's doing the exact same thing to someone else.

I've gotten so frustrated by this point that I'm tempted to just say "forget it." Maybe women (or maybe just American women) aren't worth the trouble. (Especially when they act like they are the center of the universe. While doing so, they only give prominence to their own worthlessness. -- NG)

Then again, I can't afford to move to Japan...shit.

(Thanks for writing! -- NG)

Tiflis (a guy) writes:

Hi. The other day, I had the sheer fortune of finding your brilliant (I mean this literally) site. So brilliant, in fact, that I'm e-mailling you. I hope I don't bore you too much by sharing my views etc.
Anyway, I can honestly say that I have never found any site so interesting, so inspiring, as your site. Neither have I been able to identify so much with anything. You know when you read someone's viewpoints, their thoughts, and you think "Jesus, that guy thinks EXACTLY like I do" and it almost makes you laugh, how similar it all is?Well, as you've probably gathered, that's exactly what I found while reading your site. Without wanting to bore you, a little background info about me:
I'm 20 years old, I live in the UK, attend university and, I have found, have VERY similar views to you regarding the 50% of the population us guys have the misfortune of living around. I am perhaps a bit like you in other ways, too. I have, in the past, been described as a "geek" (forgive me if you don't consider yourself a geek, please). I love the internet, and I'm hopeless with girls - although currently actually have a gf. My first kiss and gf came only a year ago, and both my gfs (I'm on my 2nd) have been met ONLINE. I'm convinced that I'd never have had a gf, had it not been for the net. Anyway, I, too, am a VERY nice guy. Never said anything mean to anyone without them saying anything mean first, and in fact rarely even do so in retaliation. I care more about other ppl's feelings than I do my own. I'm the sort who can stay faithful. The sort of guy who doesn't care only about sex. Like you, I'm an example of someone who is nice, yet isn't afraid to express his dislike of women - because the Goddamned bitches ought to be exposed for what they REALLY are, for once. I don't hate the individual woman, I admit. I wish I could. Oh, to be a homosexual *sighs*. However, through also being a nice guy who couldn't get women, I've come to draw one hell of a lot of conclusions about women. I've also learnt just how much guys who aren't exactly the most confident around, lose out when it comes to women. I, too, have female friends (although, tragic as it sounds, mainly online), and being female, they often complain about men. As women do....constantly. They have no qualms about telling me, a man, that "most men are bastards", "men should all DIE", they tell me. I pretend to be sympathetic with these stupid girls, when really I'm not, being as anything is better than nothing, and they should have chosen their bfs more carefully. What I've found, is that these women never learn. Hell, I could feel sorry for a woman who had ONE jerk of a bf; perhaps she hadn't realised what he was like. Hey, we all make mistakes, right? But the funny thing is, they make the same mistake over and over. The definition of a fool: someone who makes the same mistake twice. That'd make the women I know fools, were it to have been only twice. For no sooner have they spent some time crying on my (offline or online) shoulder, then they announce that they have a new bf. "He's great", they'll say. And guess what? Three weeks later, it happens again. Meanwhile, I'm left sitting there shaking my head. I have one female friend who sounds very like the ones you speak of. She'll tell me how nice I am, tell me what a great FRIEND I am, how much different to most guys I am, and ask when she'll ever meet someone like me. Saying "You HAVE met met, you dumb cow", is what I always have to resist the urge of doing. Not to mention giving her a damned good slap around the face. I mean, what do I have to do to make her notice how much I like her and how she should be with me. At times, I've felt like standing on top of my roof, with my arms outstretched, yelling "I'm the one you should be with, I'm here".

I've always disliked the way the nicest, quietest guys lose out when it comes to women. I dislike the way that it's always the guys that have to try harder. Like you've said, this "equality" hasn't seen the forfeitting of any advantages of being female. It's the guys that have to do the running, that have to make the first move, that have to approach the girls. At uni, we go out to clubs. Go out on the pull (looking for girls to do whatnot with, in case it's a UK term). Or should I say that THEY would, while I'd always end up going home, resigned to a night with my slightly less attractive right hand. My point is that the assholes that these women claim to hate so much, never have trouble pulling/getting laid (like you've said). Assholes don't tend to lack confidence. By women expecting men to chase after THEM (and loving the idea, I might add), they're discriminating against the quiet types. Yet these quiet types are so very often nice. Less likely to be unfaithful, less likely to lie, less likely to be violent....the list goes on. Choosers can't be beggars, I say. Women can't specify all the character traits they want in a man, and then settle for he who has the confidence (and quite possibly the over-inflated ego) to approach her. And at any rate, the whole thing seems unfair. I wish all I had to do was splash a bit of make-up here and there, and then I'd have members of the opposite sex flocking. Sex is another thing. Despite women always damned thinking it's so much harder for them, and how men always want that and nothing else, they still hold all the sexual power. If they want sex, they'll get it. If they don't, they won't. A man has more to learn about pleasing a woman in bed; a woman can never be labelled as "bad in bed". Easy, yes. Bad in bed, no. You only have to watch the film American Pie. Women always go on about what THEY want. Pleasing the girl. In general, when it comes to relationships, it's much more about what THE WOMAN wants. Or how the man treats the woman. Never how the woman treats the man. A man is more likely to be labelled a bad husband, than a woman is a bad wife. If a man is prone to mood swings, he's a bastard. An asshole. If a woman's prone to mood swings....hey, go easy on the poor woman, it must be her time of the month. Yeah, fucking right. It's why I always see that it's easier to be a woman. You see, women have other women firmly on their side. All women seem to do is worry on behalf of other women. I have a feminist sister, and all she seems to talk about is women's problems. She'll go on about how her friends are with guys who are assholes, or even read through women's magazines, sweating over stories about women who she doesn't even damned well know. Women will side naturally with other women. However, men won't naturally side with other men. In fact, a lot of the time, they'll go the other way. The individual man's enemies can be seen to be other men AND women. And as for women's enemies.....oh, that would leave no-one. This is one of the points I feel the most strong about: how women are more sexist against men, than men are against women. How women have the sheer hypocrisy to go mad when men say anything "sexist" against them, yet say things that are even worse against men, without hardly noticing. When women say something against men, we're expected to deal with it. Neither women nor men will take a blind bit of notice of a man that complains about such comments. Yet society has people making a flipping living out if taking notice of women's complaints. Society favours women - plain and simple. Many laws are made to protect women. I needn't even go into divorce settlings. Women get lighter sentences for ALL crimes. And if a woman murders her husband - hey, he must have been a wife-beating bastard. She must serve only 18 months. Let's not worry about the fact that the poor dead sod is no longer there to defend himself. Yeah, it REALLY is a man's world - I don't damned well think so.
Yet despite all this - and much, much more - women LOVE the idea that the world is sexist against them. Gives some something to moan about, another reason to hate men. I tell you, I almost believe that women thank their lucky stars every day that women were once the inferior sex, because what would they spend their lives doing if not moaning about how oppressed women have been, and what sexist pigs most men are? Equality is not equality. Equality is female supremacy. Like I said, women manage to hold onto all privileges they have always had, while gaining equality with men in all other ways. Women gaining all the rights men have, and losing none of their own priviledges would seem OK - if women hadn't had any to start with. Even centuries ago, women had priviledges, even if ones that are less noticeable. Like I said, the guys having to make the first move. Men not being able to hit women. They don't mind that, do they? They are the fairer sex when it suits them to be so. And the points I've heard regarding men not being able to hit women, yet women being able to hit men, couldn't have been more spot on. Women hitting/kicking men in the balls is often used on TV as comedy. COMEDY. And yes, women love it. A man doubled over in pain because a woman kicked him in the balls (and not necessarily for any reason) - hilarious. Yet what if, say, a man gives a slap round the face to a woman who's actually done something bad towards him. Is THAT funny? Hell no. The guy is labelled a pig. Even if the slap round the face won't have caused half as much pain as the kick in the bollocks - and was done with twice as much reason behind it.

It leads to another point - the media as a whole. It always shows men in a less favourable light than women. Apart from TV shows often going out of their way to show women doing better than men, commercials seem to be the worst. They always have men looking fools, while women looking superior. Women getting one over on men.

So, we have laws that favour women, the media showing men to be stupid, women saying all these things about men (anti-men jokes are common), yet STILL, it's women that complain about MEN. And STILL, there is all this damned hype about sexism and discrimination. Will the bitches ever be happy? NO. Give them an inch (what equality should have been), and they take a yard. No, fuck that, they take a mile.

Like you, I often don't like other men, either. But like you say, what would be the point in ranting about that? After all, however much I went on, women could do it ten times as well for ten times as long. And frequently do. The media reminds us how much men suck, women remind us how much men suck. I'm sick of hearing about it. Hell, it's enough to make me admit men suck just to give-in to the damned hype, it's that annoying.

You see, I have already thought about a lot of the points you bring up on your site. I'd had ideas about starting my own site. However, I admit that I could never make one as good as you. Your writings are long, yet not TOO long. At no time while reading your pages did I lose interest. Your page about how sexist American women are was my favourite. It covered everything I could have thought to mention and more. I must also mention your sense of humour. You're pretty damned funny. I feel that sexism is only considered to be against women, yet is more often against men, half the time without men even realising. There are enough feminist idiots out there, enough moaning women, enough anti-men sites; now it's time there were some anti-women sites. Sites which expose women for what they are. Which yours does. It's bound to get women going mad.....which proves a point I made earlier. Do we go mad even half as mad about anti-men sites? I hardly think so...

It will probably annoy women, but hell, they deserve it. See how THEY like it. I also like the bit where you said that American women should see you leaving for Japan as the ultimate rejection, and how misogynists aren't born, but made. And pointing out about how nice you were. You know, I reckon only a nice guy would build such a site, anyway. Only a nice guy would have learnt so much about women.

Anyway, to end, I'll say one thing: I may be from the UK, but from the media/net, I have also made observations about how awful AMERICAN women are. Mind you, UK women are not far behind, and everything on your site seemed applicable to the UK. Congratulations on the best misogynist site I found, and some of the most interesting, well-said stuff that I've ever read. You've probably helped so many similar guys out there so much. You have your head screwed on so firmly it's untrue. What I call cool, is someone who has the right ideas. Who has taken time to think and reflect upon their observations. ANYONE could learn a lot from your site. Sheer genius. I'm giving out the link to numerous people. Take care, and all the best with finding a non-typical woman. Hell, you deserve one.

(Very sincere thanks! I think I'm blushing... -- NG)

Ariane (a gal) writes:

Dear Nice Guy

I agree with you that "women in the 16-35 age-group are mostly lunatics". Even though I'm 16 and an American female, I've seen my share of their behavior. I just hope i don't turn out like them... (That's a nice thing to say, but part of me doubts that she can meaningfully prevent the inevitable transformation into bitchhood. -- NG)
I understand where your frustration comes from,(you and many others)
And your Website is a real good way to get the message across, even though you risk angering many people, (well mostly women) but what other way would they understand the frustration you and many other nice guys go through? I enjoyed your site, and the truth it holds. Keep up the great work.
also, I want to wish you luck in Japan

(Thanks... -- NG)

Brianna (a gal) writes:

I tottaly agree about everything you say about women that is why I surround my self with good friends of the male species I can't stand to be around girls for more then a few hours but the guys I hang out with they are cool all the time. (Lemme guess... they are all so gosh-darned NICE and she will never deign to have a romantic date with any of them? -- NG) I am probaly very guilty of many of the things you mention in your site but I don't think that I take it to the level some girls do because I do not see the point of makeing anyone lower then me in fact alot of times I do the very oppasite. I do like your site and I think you have alot of very vaild points though the line were you say "I have zero interest in becoming more attractive to putrid, revolting skanks." that did bug me because yeah ok maybe you don't like us but you don't have to call us names like that. (Well I'm nothing if I'm not totally honest. Heh, I'd be even more foul if my statements were entirely false. -- NG) So anyway I will let you go now talk to you later.

(Thanks... -- NG)

Pianoman (a previous contributor) writes:

Hi!

My first two emails were written when I was very angry. I have had some time to cool down and I wanted to write that I enjoy reading and posting to your site more then ever! Lol, I am a guy so everything I wrote still stands! (Laff! -- NG) Your site offers more help to nice guys then you may know. I am constantly being called crazy by women and treated with astonishing malice by them. I read on your site that many men are experiencing the same things I am and reading the posts are great way for me to relax.

I went to a nightclub the other Friday and a woman was standing behind me waiting to get in. She looked directly at my shoes, then swiftly ignored me. This may seem trite, but, for the last 16 years the majority of women I have met will look at my shoes or socks to determine if they will speak to me. I don't wear jewelry, suits, or watches when I go out and women want to find out what material things I have by looking at my shoes. Women will say this is normal behavior at a nightclub. Problem is, the shoe staring incidents happen at church and work as well! This has happened thousands of times and now I know why. The majority of women in the USA are prostitutes. American women are not even nice prostitutes. Most women in the USA are dirty, disease infested, annoying, scary, verbally abusive, and vulgar whores. Have you noticed how the voices of Americans are now? Their voices are like finger nails on a chalkboard.

I live in a state that has been at the center of the Telecom meltdown. While most of the CEO's of these failed companies were men, I noticed that most of the supervisors and managers were women. Enron, Global Crossing, WorldCom, and many other large corporations promoted and made women their trench decision makers at a astonishing rate between 1999 -2002. To defraud investors a corporation needs key people willing to do the dirty work or fire anyone who attempts to stall or stop the corporation's scams. I personally witnessed female managers lie about sales numbers by the tens of thousands to get more investor money. I have noticed that women today will commit white-collar crime, lie and discriminate with no remorse. Many more companies will fail because women are quickly rising to become managers in large corporations. It's not that women can't be managers. They are being