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July Reader Feedback Imagine, if you will: an entire gender of people raised within a culture which ensures them that they are perennial and blameless victims and that their oppressors are all violent, loutish, sex-crazed brutes who are just too stupid to deserve any respect at all. Furthermore, this culture encourages and rewards them for behaving in as loathsome, obnoxious, spiteful, vile, uncontrollable, vindictive and self-centered a fashion as all get-out. Imagine the mutated creatures which will surely evolve and eventually emerge from such a messy primordial soup? They would be an unwholesome group of creatures, to say the least. Well, you clearly don't have to imagine too hard, because you're already here reading this... If you live in the English-speaking world, you face women who are officially allowed to abuse whomever they please. Women with absolutely no regard for the respect that should be shown for each other by men and women. Women who will cut-off your testicles and immediately laugh at you for not having any balls. Indeed, half of them don't seem to realize how money magically appears in your wallet... but they are nonetheless ready to insist that they deserve it more than you do. Yes, it's easy to be attracted to North American chicks- they have great advertising. Even the ugliest ones seem to think they are gorgeous. They invest tens of billions of dollars a year on make-up, hair, sexy outfits, plastic surgery- all kinds of artificial distractions designed make them look more tempting. The advertising of American women is glitzy and sexy, but it only serves to mask an inferior product. It is a beauty which tries to prevent you from seeing that when it comes to character and behavior, they have sunk to just about the lowest levels that males can possibly stomach. Their advertising ranks among the slickest propaganda tricks that come to mind; a feat akin to making you think a bucket of pus is actually a vanilla milkshake. I'm amazed by how great the responses to my humble site have been this month. The wealth of stories out there is simply astonishing. Pain does make good writing, it seems. The amount of quality feedback is turning into a raging torrent. I'm constantly amazed that anybody cares what I say. Furthermore, July's centerpiece critic has been among the limpest, most flaccid dissenters I've yet seen (i.e. 'Shona', who is mixed-in there somewhere below). Oh, someone sent this to me from www.theonion.com, I thought it was cute, so I'm reposting it here...
And a former contributor sent a few random thoughts that would fit-in up here... "The real problem with society today is not the domination of women, but the domination by women. Children are having their minds warped. Boys are being taught at younger and younger ages to be ashamed of themselves simply for being born male, whilst girls are taught to be "independent" of males. This independence, of course, being doublespeak for: "You are superior to boys and you have to prove it by acting in nonsensical ways so that they will simply think that they are stupid for not understanding." With that in mind, sit-back. Crack-open a pint of Häagen-Dazs or enjoy a plateful of cream-cheese blintzes. Here is the July edition of Reader Feedback...
Chaffee, (a guy) writes: Well done! Whenever you smell bullshit, it is a good sign that you are on the trail of truth. You have glimpsed sight of a disturbing fact... you and I, like most men, are but sharers of leftovers in a society which gives women first grabs at whatever benefits are parceled-out. You may think I'm exaggerating, but this fact
is most clearly flagrant in American colleges: over the years, they have been
transformed into heavily female-oriented institutions. (If you don't believe me,
just try looking for a scholarship intended specifically for white males.) In
one of your reader feedback sections, you mentioned quite quickly that females
comprise an ever-increasing majority of college graduates. (Mentioned
that in the intro to the last feedback
section . -- NG) This is quite true, but it is not news: this
disparity has been growing steadily over the past 10-15 years. Not only do women
almost entirely dominate such college departments as psychology, education and
speech therapy but traditionally male-dominated fields like computer science and
engineering have been bending-over backwards to make themselves more amenable
and attractive to female students. Whenever a male-dominated department makes
an effort to remove "gender bias", it means that male students will
have to work a lot more than a female student, just so he can get to the same
ranking that she will get, by virtue of her gender. All of this is in the name
of promoting "diversity" of course, no one ever talks about a "diversity"
of males for female-dominated departments. And imagine: all of this has happened
in a system where everything from athletics to the SAT and the dormitory sexual
mores are supposedly biased in favor of males. On campus, the slightest negative in-class remark about women will get you in trouble, but there's absolutely no restraint at all on how much man-bashing you can do. And their PC rules (which often serve to stifle legitimate points of view) merely ratify this kind of sexism. When you have derogatory things to say about men, the sky is the limit. You can't be offensive to anybody, unless that somebody is male and heterosexual. In your own college experience when a pair of women throw a bucket of cold water at a man in the shower, it gets winked-at and regarded as a joke. Are we to believe that a pair of men sneaking-in to a girls' bathroom to do the same would not cause a MUCH bigger indignant stir among women on campus? But back to the disappearing males in college: it has become so acute it is starting to get visually apparent when you walk around an average campus. To make matters worse, university heads are aware of this gender-disparity as a worrying trend, but not for the reasons you might think. Universities aren't too concerned about this disparity out of fair-mindedness or the principle of equality, but mainly because it is in the self-interest of the colleges to do so. Specifically, how can they attract more male students, because male students are more likely to pay full tuition? It's an issue of marketing, not fairness. They use euphemisms like "balanced social life" to mean they're concerned about how the number of male students is dwindling. The mass-media sometimes reports on this phenomenon, but does not try to penetrate to the logical heart of the matter. Many articles on the topic emphasize that the reasons for this gender disparity are a confounding mystery; that it is totally BAFFLING why men are disappearing on campus. Some articles conclude that the biggest factor is because male high school graduates are probably too short-sighted and anti-intellectual to understand the value of a college education. That they want to jump into unskilled jobs immediately after high school because they are blinded by the lure of quick money. Therefore, they conclude that this whole thing is most likely a result of personal failings on the part of millions of men. Whether or not the system is biased against men is a question which never seems to be raised, because it's assumed that no institution can possibly be biased against men. Never mind the fact that boys comprise 80-90% of the expulsions from primary and secondary schools, society just assumes that men fit into the system perfectly and have only themselves to blame whenever they don't succeed. But whenever a woman doesn't succeed at something, then it can only be that the system is stacked against her! Furthermore, the mass-media sometimes manages to throw-in some flippant statement about how the men on campus probably have it just A-OK because of their choice of dates each weekend from these unbalanced gender ratios (wink, wink lads! Isn't life great for you?) So, these articles try to hint that among the real beneficiaries of this disparity are the men on campus, because they have less competition for women! (Naturally, musing that the men on campus have women fawning over them is rather facetious based on how many college-age men I know who have problems finding dates.) Even more ridiculously, one recent article which I saw on this topic even managed to plant the idea in the readers' minds that women were at a long-term _disadvantage_ in this arrangement! Specifically: what will happen when these female college-graduates are unable to find equally well-educated husbands ten years down the road? Oh alas and alack, they will be the losers! It's sure a good thing that women don't 'need' men in their lives, right? Despite all this attention on the problem, almost no one in the mass-media seems to be drawing the most obvious conclusions: university populations are lopsidedly female because universities blatantly give every advantage to women under the sexist idea that they are somehow more deserving. Instead, the media tries to make it out to be the fault of men, because men are probably just too stupid to appreciate the importance of a college education anyway. The idea that the U.S. educational system structurally shortchanges men is entirely unthinkable because it might force people to ask unpleasant questions and it might even cause people to propose reforms which women would find too inconvenient... specifically: stopping all this blatant favoritism. And no, women aren't very concerned about this because they just love to gloat about how males are doing poorly in school. It makes them feel superior. Never mind that most course materials are selected by schools to be more 'female friendly' and are therefore of less interest to boys. Never mind that school cirricula are increasingly designed to elevate girls. Never mind that most teachers are females and therefore primarily serve as female role-models. Never mind that most school psychologists are female and have a huge amount of influence over recommending narcotherapy for a child. Never mind that a boy's behavior which was once seen as spirited (rough play, mischief, competition) is now seen as some kind of disorder. If the fictional character Tom Sawyer was in a public school of today, he'd surely be on Ritalin! No, there must be something wrong with boys' brains, a woman will reckon with a teensy grin on her lips. Best to use drugs or turn them into girls. And finally there is the long-term result that no one will dare bring-up: if more men are kept uneducated and ignorant, it serves the purpose of making them more easily disempowered, divided and controllable. It will make them more-easily marginalized and will keep them shut-out of the best-paid work. It will allow men to perpetuate their monopoly on back-breaking, dangerous jobs. Men will be more easily sneered-at with disgust and contempt in the same way that the wealthy sneer-upon the homeless. This conclusion isn't too hard to arrive-at, but almost no one is actually saying it. You left America because of your desire to get-away from anti-male bigotry. That was truly a principled decision. You basically said: "I will not live in a country where I am not treated fairly." I respect you highly for that. Your look at female doublespeak continues to be of interest to me. The rise of tyranny is bound-up in the decay of language. To illustrate just how powerful a force doublespeak is in warping human thought, here is an example of the insanity we live with... in the name of 'equality', 'anti-sexism' and 'liberation', the women of the English-speaking world will not be satisfied until all of the men are in cages. (ROTFL! Sums it all up, dunnit? Heh, but still... cages actually might offer some protection- until they start poking us with pointed sticks, that is. -- NG) Keep writing your thoughts. We need more sane voices to help us navigate this hostile, fem-centric wilderness. (Gee, thanks! Come to think of it, the first week of college orientation I went to, we had to take part in a small group-session about sexual conduct on campus. The groups had about 12 students apiece. Female students were separated from the males, and we each had somewhat different talks with a faculty member. The talk given to the male students can be summed-up with: 'respect the female students, understand the rules, above all: BE RESPONSIBLE.' The talk given to the females was a little different... it could be summed-up with: 'watch out, some guys can't control themselves. Watch yourself at night. And remember: the rules exist to protect you'. Clearly, there was a bias there in the official outlook. Furthermore if an alien visitor landed on my college campus, it would probably come-away with the impression that breast cancer was the only disease on planet Earth. -- NG)
Sebastian (a guy) writes: My friend, you are spot on on your website
about how men get the sh*t end of the stick. I used to be a nice guy but got converted
after studying in the School of Hard Knocks 'til the age of 26. (Thanks! -- NG)
Rob (a guy) writes: You are a fucking genius. Thanks for the site. I have also permanently let evil-guy run the show. These bitches are gonna pay. (Heh, thanks... lurid details please? -- NG)
Jordan (a guy) writes: Hello NiceGuy: I randomly came across your site searching "pinky+toe" to confirm the terms of the toes on the foot, and it led me to your section about your relationship with Fumiyo. This in turn led me back to your top page, and I am very intrigued by the subject matter, since it is very relevant to my own relationship-experiences. I struggled with the personalities of my 2 older sisters, and some American girls in Seattle (my home town), but since dating a Japanese woman at 19 I have dated no others. I have found the disparatities sadly enormous. It truly makes me reflect upon what kind of people we are creating in our society. It's quite frightening when I see the behavior of women in my family -- many of them castrating the very identities of their male partners. It would be enough for me to enter a state of complete despair -- if I hadn't been fortunate enough to become interested in Japan and Japanese and as a bonus Japanese women. The whole issue of the personality flaws of many American women was hit home again by my encounters with European women -- who, I didn't love as much as my darling Japanese girlfriends -- but who still seemed to be extreme improvements over the American brand. It's all very concerning. But sometimes I tell myself I must be careful -- sometimes I wonder if it's not all Americans, both men and women, who are inflicted with an essential arrogance that shows up in the form of so many awful traits -- and that perhaps you and I are only more sensitive to these problems in women since we pursued them as mates. At any rate, I must get back to work, Nice site. I will read more, and share it with some friends. - Jordan (Cool! -- NG)
Stacy (a gal) writes: I just wanted to say that I agree with you on your "women suck" philosophy of sorts. I'm a 15 year old girl/chick/woman, whichever you'd prefer, ('Chick' will do. -- NG) and I can honestly say that I really hope that I don't suddenly turn into one of the idiotic women that go for the crappy guys that you described. I can say that for me atleast some of the sucky guys have something about them that draws you to them, maybe cute eyes or something, but there's just something about them, so it's not that the women that go for them are idiots. The guys I'd go for tend to be the underdogs, the nice guys that aren't noticed as much. Just how it agrivates you the whole "nice guys finish last" thing, the same is for nice chicks. I've always thought that I was a "nice chick" but that's got me nowhere. So the nice guys and the nice girls get stuck in the dust of the "players" and the "skanks." Sucks how things work out that way. With all of the women that bitch and complain that you are degrading them with this site, (Really? How many? -- NG) just remember that they know you're right and are too afraid to admit it. (Aww, thanks! I'd always suspected that was the main reason... -- NG)
Charlene (a woman) writes: Dear
Mr. NiceGuy.... or Mr. EvilGuy..... (Thanks! -- NG)
Cairn (a guy) writes: Great
web page! Sounds like Japan is pretty cool. You've probably got hundreds of emails
from other guys confirming your views, well here's another one. I am, however,
married and that has it's downfalls too. I married a woman who, over the course
of the last 15 years, has turned out to be a total wacko/raving bitch/hormone
factory. They are almost impossible to live with or without, go figure. Can't
wait to read about your next date with Fumyio, it's an interesting saga. Great page keep it up. (Thanks! -- NG)
Some1 (a guy) writes: Dear
Sir, (Shucks, thanks a lot! -- NG)
Gaston (a guy) writes: Found the site yesterday through, get this, a gaming related message board where somebody started a topic about women always toying with us, and somebody replied with your website address. Been havin' a ball since then browsing your website. I gotta say, you're wrong. (Screw this, my personal version of EvilGuy just kicked me in the shins for knowing you are right, yet being gentle and polite for every girl that might read this. It's been 2 years since my last romp, and I don't want to close any doors now, do I??) Anyways, I couldn't agree more with your views and comments. First of all, let me start with some information about me: I'm a grade-A zero when it comes to women. I've had 7 girlfriends, only slept with 1 of them (and even though we did it 7~8 times, I'm still very new at this and need a lot of pointers....) and most of them made me cringe at the way they ended it (except the last, we both saw that we didn't belong together and thus ended amicably, even though I really wanted to screw her.... what can I say, she was hot, bright, cheerful and intelligent). What is wrong with women? Just like you said, they continually tell you what they are after, yet date the total opposite. Like I heard once: "The first thing a girl will do when she gets a boyfriend is change his clothes, friends, way of living until she gets him to be like she wants him to be. Then a year later, she dumps him because he's changed." Women don't know what they want and they put the blame on us. Anyway, suffice to say, since those 6 disastrous endings (remember now, number 7 ended well) I haven't really been giving a lot of thought to girls here (up in Canada, where we like winter because it's cold...... stupid cold nipple joke there, sorry for that, it was too easy to put that there). So that makes me a single guy, 22 years old, finishing university, who can't find a decent girlfriend and hasn't had one in about 2 years. I must tell you, I'm almost an exact replica of you, only 5~6 years younger and with the social skills of a mosquito allergic to blood. (Heh! -- NG) Just like you, I thought of going to live in Japan to see what it's like there and try to find a decent woman who will accept the responsibilities that come with the privileges women have been clamoring for since the past 50 years. PS: In case my e-mail makes me look like some typical guy who just wants to get some, please remember, my evil twin persona is getting really horny and won't shut up about it. I'm not looking for a hole to fill, I just want a decent girlfriend to hold and nurture. Yes, that may sound dorky or false, but hey, I'm kinda dorky and it ain't false. Just by checking your website, I guess you understand me NiceGuy.... I just remembered something my next door neighbor (university dorms) told me that really pissed me off: she kept complaining that whenever a game was on (hockey, baseball, footbal, whatever), her boyfriend would completely ignore her and watch the game. Suffice to say, she didn't like that. Then she asked me if I had done the same thing with my previous girlfriends. My answer; I don't like sports, so no. You know what she said to that? quote: "You don't like sports? What kind of man are you? You're gay, or what?" end quote. My inner thoughts at that moment: "No honey, I'm not gay and I just might be the kind of guy that doesn't piss you off. Buh-bye." (Why keep that kind of thought 'inner'? -- NG) Yes, women don't know what they want and when they do, well let's just say that ain't what they search for. And they have the nerve to say that men are complicated and don't know what they want! Right.......... I actually asked one of my female coworkers something today: I asked her about people pushing their companion in the grand cycle of living with someone. We were talking about girls pushing guys and she thought that was funny. I told her that this could be a sexist attitude. Needless to say, she disagreed. So I told her: "If a man pushes a woman around, it's not right but if a woman pushes a man around, then it's funny?" I hadn't finished the sentence before she said yes, and found nothing wrong with that. (Here's how you deal with her... throw her into a cage full of lions. Simple. Problem solved. -- NG) And men are the sexist ones........ (Heh! Thanks for writing! -- NG)
Count Dukestro (a guy) writes: I've attached a comic I found online which I thought you might like. I have become an avid reader of your articles and wish to congratulate you on your wit and good debating skills against a faction which does not accept debate. I must say you have provided me with great inspiration. (What it's like to debate women is thrown-into context once you realize that anything you can ever say will never cause them to think that they could ever be incorrect. Whenever you make a good point, they'll interrupt and try to shout you down. And in the unlikely event that you're ever correct about anything, they'll sob-out a river until you apologize and promise to never say it again. -- NG)
![]() (Cute! Thanks! -- NG)
Chris (probably a guy, but I couldn't tell) writes: Dear Nice Guy, (Well, I'll keep ya posted as time goes on! -- NG)
Sam (a guy) writes: Hey
NiceGuy. Been reading your site for a while now, and I can definitely sympathize
with your stories. My last girlfriend was considerably nuts....especially since
she stopped taking her Paxil around the time she met me. Oy. (Stopped
taking her brain tonic, eh? Oy indeed. -- NG) But anyway, the point of
this mail is to let you know that not ALL American females suck. I'm only 17,
but trust me, things are no different in high school. I, however, seem to have
found an anomaly among them. She's an absolutely great girl...she says thank you
whenever I pay for her, constantly offers to pay full or at least half for lunch/dinner,
or whatever we're doing...I've never met another girl quite like her, actually.
Which is what you've been saying all along, in any case. For the most part I agree
with you, but I just wanted to let you know that there are still some bright spots
in the otherwise cruel, cruel world of American women. Have a blast with those
Japanese ladies... (Well, good luck then. -- NG)
Ellmed (a guy) writes: I happened upon your website recently. I must say that there is not a thing you wrote that I can disagree with. I am also one of those nice guys who have no relationship or emotional commitment to show for it. What is wrong with American women? They lie and cheat like there is no tomorrow. I recently got out of a relationship with one who professed her "love" for me but was cheating on me, and was cheating on the guy she was cheating on me with, with yet another guy. All through college, I had noticed that the women paired off with the jerks, and never paid any attention to the nice guys. I really think that women today are inflicted with narcissism. They behave like children. Many are products of broken marriages themselves, and can't offer a commitment since they do not know what it is like to be in a serious relationship (not being able to see one from their parents). Instead they turn to materialistic pursuits, which is why they are so shallow. I am thinking of going overseas for a bride. I may stand a better chance... (Heh, I think I certainly have a better chance nowadays. Thanks for writing... -- NG)
Mildred (a gal) writes: Well hello there NiceGuy. I am a girl, and I am between the age of 16-35, and I'm not going to chew you out or anything like that. I have to admit though, you're website really did offend me. It may be true that some girls (or maybe even most, like you say) are like that, but I try to think that I am not. I haven't read through the whole website yet, but I can truthfully say that I cannot relate to having ever done any of the things you say we do. You may think I'm lying, but i've never used "Let's just be friends" or shit like that. I don't think that's right, saying that. You may not believe anything I say, but I don't really care. I promise you everything is true. Well thanks for your time, bye. (I'd really like to believe her. I mean, she believes what she says. But my gut says that although she means well, she's probably just oblivious to her own bad behavior. -- NG)
SeoulMan (a guy) writes: Hey, Niceguy... Excellent site. I'm a 24-year-old Canadian guy currently residing in Korea. Although my move was more employment-related than anything else, I'm pretty close to giving up on women, as many of the others who have written are. I know I'm a nice guy, too. A few women have told me that, generally followed by "and it's nothing against you personally but...." And then there was the idiot American girl (okay, so using "idiot" and "girl" in the same phrase is a bit redundant) who disappeared into thin air for no apparent reason after 3 months of continuous contact. I'm also sick of hearing "you're such a great guy, and you're really good-looking...you'd be a great catch" from the following 3 groups: 1. Women in my parents' generation (or older)...I don't care how good-looking someone's granny thinks I am...that does me no good. I won't be going for her! 2. Married female friends...I won't be going for them either. 3. Men. I definitely won't be going there. Keep up the great work on the site. It's good to see that there are so many others in the same boat (and women who are willing to send you lengthy emails to support what we already know to be true, eg 'Suzy'). (Heh, what can you say about a woman who out-performs any satire that I could ever dream-up? I mean, just on her own, she renders lampooning redundant fer chrissakes! And she vividly proves what the author David Gerrold once said: "The only substitute for brains is silence." -- NG) Go man, go! (Wonder how SeoulMan's doing with the Korean gals? -- NG)
Naria (a gal) writes Hi, my name is Naria, a friend of mine sent me the link to your page...i think he was trying to get me upset, but it did quite the opposite. It intrigued me...i'm curious, being a girl...i SHOULD be hurt and upset by society's standards, just because some of the things you said werent pleasant...but they were true! No one can deny that... Thanks for your time, Naria (Heh, well I appreciate the compliment. -- NG)
Shona (an ever-so witty woman) scores a point for the gals: Hello,
I am female and I find your site an enjoyable read every once and a while. And
I only find it an enjoyable read because it's so damn stupid that I laugh and
mock you for hours. (Hours mocking such an openly stupid web-site, eh?
Heh, and some people assume that I don't have a life! -- NG) It's
not really all that stupid, but it's repetitive. (Yeah I
know- some people just won't get it if you don't hammer it in. -- NG) (Aww, and thank you for the sugar-coating on such "clever" insults. It's wonderful that she was restraining herself to protect me from the traumatic experience of receiving the full force of her unbridled, cutting sarcasm. I'm sure she must be holding-back her really good zingers for more important people. But as for me being entertaining, yes I aim to please... I'm happy that at least one woman finds me so uproariously humorous without ever feeling burdened by the urge to reflect upon herself. For her sake, I hope that somebody out there will think that her contribution was a pretty good jab at me.-- NG)
Louise (a woman) writes: To
Nice Guy, (Thanks very much for writing... but, about that last statement, I can guarantee it won't happen. Sacred Vow, you know...)
Kay-Eks (a guy) writes: You note that American women suck the most out of all cultures. As a Canadian and having read the experiences of you and other readers of your website, I can safely say Canadian women suck as much as American and that you should say North American Women Suck. (Hmm, noted. -- NG) Canadian women, in my opinion, are as manipulative, bitchy, and flat out evil as American women are. And I have the experience to prove it. My ex, Brittany, is the equivalent of your Lying Whorebag except with a 140 IQ and the will to conquer the world. But for the time being, she is satisfied by just getting her way. If youre not with her, youre against her, and on top of that, youre evil and should be crucified at the cross. I first really got to know her in my sophomore year of High School, because we were in the same crowd. At first we enjoyed long intellectual conversations, about anything really, politics, history, what have you and I believe she was impressed with the way I could keep up (in a debate, she would normally mop the floor with anyone who stood against her, I, however, held my own) with her and teach her a thing or to about some random things. She wasnt without (visible) flaws; she had self-esteem issues when it came to her looks. One day she was telling all of her friends (they happened to be mine as well) that she was ugly, I simply told her to stop being so stupid, she was a very pretty young woman (which happens to be the truth). When I said this, most of my friends were surprised. I am not mean, I do not put anyone down without an apparent reason, but I generally dont hail praise to people without an apparent reason especially to people from the opposite sex. I never allow myself to be taken advantage of by women (maybe because my mom made me watch her soaps when I was young, Ill never know) You know how sometimes a very attractive woman would come up to you, flutter her eyelashes, sweetens her voice and ask you for money, food, a favour, etc.? I would shock my weak-willed male friends and impress my female friends, who werent nearly as attractive, by telling those types to take a hike, immediately turning their image of me into a brick wall. So anyway, word began to fly that I had a crush on her and to top it off, telling her she was pretty pushed her over the edge and she became obsessed with me. Guys didnt treat her too well, she was used to being insulted by us, but I believe she mostly had it coming to her, she could be a bitch, so when I lavished praise on her, well, she began to act much differently around me. One day Britt and I were talking using IM and she asks me, Do like to talk to me? I tell her No, thats why I always talk to you when you come online or when I see you at school, because I hate it so much. She detects my sarcasm and asks me another question, When you said I was pretty, did you mean it? I immediately became suspicious and through a friend discovered that she had a crush on me, so I told her that I meant what I said. The next day, like I expected, one of her good friends came to me and told me since I obviously liked her too (which I deny now completely, and I was slightly offended by the assumption, but I didnt want to be mean to a person, whom at the time I thought was not evil) I should ask her out. I shrugged and told her Id think about it. For a week I sat on the prospect, I didnt like her in that way but she was intelligent and fun to be around with. I was talking with one of my friends and he told me that I sounded like I liked her plenty and that I was just a little confused so I said Screw it and called her up. Thats when she exposed herself as an evil, manipulative, possessive incarnation of the devil itself. Immediately after our first date, she told all of my female friends to back off, that I was her property. That bothered me but, I only had two female friends anyway so I just apologised to them later, they fully understood Brittanys insanity before I did and forgave me, but then things became much worse. The most enjoyable part of our relationship before the dating was our conversations, in which would share different opinions on things and discuss them. But now that I was her boyfriend, I was the sort of the man-behind-the-women and I had to be in complete sync with her ideas and opinions. My thoughts were only valid if they augmented her own. (Ugh! I would've died! -- NG) This bothered me as well, I mean I dont want to watch what I say if theres nothing wrong with it, and I began to wonder if I really liked her in the way that I was told that I did. As is common, I suppose, she wanted me to open up and express my feelings at, of course, a time that pleased her. As already stated, I had a reputation for being a brick wall, so she wanted to be the brilliant woman whose kindness cracked opened my rock for a heart. Truth be told, I had nothing hidden, I was a high-school sophomore, my parents were good to me, I had a happy childhood and my family as a whole was good, hard working people. I had no burning psychological issues and nothing and nobody in particular bothered me, but when I told Brittany that, she didnt believe me. She said things like why are you hiding stuff from me, and dont you trust me? I trust you, obvious attempts to guilt me. ('I refuse to believe there's not much wrong with you!' -- NG) As our relationship progressed, she developed other tactics to try and pry a deep, dark secret out of me. I kept telling her that nothing really bothered me, but she kept on pressing for something, I dont think she could accept the fact that I was actually socially-adjusted and she wasnt. One day, I got a brainstorm, why dont I ask her to open up to me? She, at first, thought I should open up to her before she did to me, but I managed to convince her tell me something. She started off by saying, I hate most of my friends. I was a little shocked, to say the least, asked her to elaborate, I hate most of my friends, the ones I hate reciprocate, in fact the only reason they dont ditch me is because I have dirt on them. Pardon me? I asked. She went on to describe how she knew a girl (she didnt name names, she still wanted some power over me) who was sexually abused by her father, an honour student who nearly flunked middle school and a few others who told her their secrets. Brittany told me that if they abused her, shed spread a secret to, as she put it, destroy them mentally as well as socially. I was frightened, no not just frightened, I was petrified. She had all this power and she sounded as if she were willing to use it to prevent them from hurting [her]. I decided that I needed to dump her and run for cover, but she sounded mean enough to spread a nasty rumour about me to all off my friends if I decided to end it against her will. It became a chess game, she was a smart cookie so I couldnt just say look over there and run away. As time went on, I found her behaviour truly disgusting and it became difficult for me to control my anger at the way she acted. Instead of keeping my mouth shut on issues that we disagreed, I fought back, greatly displeasing her. We would be up half the night on the phone angrily debating something that had no direct consequence to us. I couldnt end the discussion if I was tired and needed to be fresh for a test the next morning, unless I made a complete about-face on my views and I am too stubborn for that, so we argued until she got tired of it and dropped the subject. One time, however, I managed to gain the upper hand and catch her in a lie. She just dismissed me as a redneck and an idiot. I took more offence to being called a redneck, since my grades proved that I was no dumbass. Considering that I lived in the city all of my life and I never kissed my cousin with tongue, how could I be considered a redneck? She then defended herself with Its my opinion, and opinions cant be wrong! I told her that doesnt always exempt you from being wrong, its like saying two plus two is nine and if its your opinion, youre not wrong. Am I a total jackass for saying that her opinion was wrong? I mean if youre opinion of someone is that hes an idiot then he scores a 1500 on the SATs, you werent wrong about his intelligence, just because you throw in the word opinion? She began to make sweeping generalizations about everything I associate with. Im ethnically Slavic, so when she said all Slavs (including myself) were, loser, drunk, commie, women-beating, bigots (Wow, bitchy, dishonest, manipulative and racist. The circle of evil is complete. Okay, at this point I'd have given the fucking demon a swift battering to the kidneys. But as is my style, I would've delivered darkly humorous irony on top of a savage bludgeoning... I'd have screamed: 'How dare you (SMACK!) call me (SMACK!) a drunken, commie woman-beater! (SMACK!) Now fetch me my whiskey and the latest issue of Pravda!' -- NG) and that I was lucky that someone as good as [her was] spending my time with [me] I flipped out. I was so angry that I couldnt talk, I was red with rage and I shook with anger. She claimed to want to know the real me (even though the real me was standing right in front of the sow) and that she would accept me for who I am, but then she says this, that who I am isnt good isnt good enough? I simply hung up the phone and told my parents if someone called for me I wasnt home. The next day at school someone passed me a note and told me it was from Brittany. I was still very upset and I noticed the letter was very long, I simply threw it out. I must admit in hindsight that this was possibly the worst thing I could have done. Everyone saw me do it, so now Brittany didnt even have to make something up to make me the villain. It ripped our group of friends into two, the ones that believed that I had a right to be upset and that she was right and I was wrong. Of course only a handful of my closer friends stuck by me, most of the others knew her longer than I, so they abandoned me. I was forced to draw my battle lines as she now considered me as evil. Right now, at least, things have calmed down. My friends who sided with her quickly went back to normal relations with me and its only she and I who have a problem with each other. I figure she was so interested in getting me to open up because she wanted something to hold leverage against me. (Well, yeah. Whorebag did the exact same thing to me. There's no other reason for it, and it's good he didn't 'open-up'. 'Open-up' being doublespeak for 'make yourself vulnerable to more cheap shots, you woman-beating, drunken Slav.' -- NG) I am convinced that she is evil and the fact that most of her friends havent left her (I dont care what secret she has, when shes so possessive and frighteningly evil you head for the hills and dont look back) and the fact they constantly defend her when I try to convince them that she is insane, that the womens stick-together-no-matter-what mentality is the reason they have been able to manipulate men to a point in which they actually have the advantage. It is strategically brilliant, but certainly not fair for us men, who seemed to be the only ones who can tell when one of their own is being unreasonable. (The fairness of a gender can be gauged by its collective awareness of its own unfairness. -- NG) Keep up the good work on your site; it definitely is very true, and if you need someone to be a character witness once you get sued (someone will try it, eventually, not that theyll win or anything) Ill help you out (I know karate... the opposing lawyer wont see what hit him). (Heh. -- NG) Remembering always to Fight the Power... (Thanks! -- NG)
Gideon (a guy) writes: Dear NiceGuy: I lived in Korea for two years. One
time I was with this prostitute.....this was around the time when John Wayne Bobbitt
was in the news.....yes, dated I know....anyway, she got a kick out out of his
penis getting chopped off. That scared me at the time, but fortunately she was
nice to me. My impression of Korea was that it was exactly what I heard that Japanese
culture was like. (Well, many Koreans and Japanese would
dispute that, but anyways... -- NG) My point is that women are evil the
world over because it's genetic. Put them in the USA, and it's like Eddie Murphy
once said "Me half." (...during his monologue on divorce) Women don't
get nicer when they're not in the USA. I've been in over a dozen countries. WOMEN
AREN'T AS BAD AS YOU THINK....THEY'RE WORSE!!!!!!!!!! (Heh, I wanted to believe that there are good women out there in the world. Sometimes I wonder if I'm not being naïve in thinking that. -- NG)
Triple A (a guy) writes: Just wanted to say your site hit a nerve with me & made me realize Im not alone....nice guys really do finish last. My life is living proof of that, and after reading some of the stories youve posted, my instinct is only confirmed. The only thing Id like to say is that at least youve had some women in your time; youve slept with a few in your 26 yrs of life. Me, Im 29 and I havent slept with one...not ONE! So youve been more successful than you think. After all, youve got poor fools like me who still havent been intimate & probably never will. (Well, just think of all the great diseases you're missing-out on! -- NG), well, at least Ive come to realize that it may not even be worth it, since most women play games & and are untrustworthy to begin with. Ive been exactly where youve been, friend, so keep up the faith..... (Thanks! -- NG)
Dirk (a previous contributor) writes: Dear Niceguy: (I'd be interested in knowing how this turns-out... -- NG)
Foozwak (a guy) writes: Hey there NiceGuy. (Helluva story! Thanks! -- NG)
StillSingle (a guy) writes: Nice Guy, To anyone out there (male, or female) who would dispute the accuracy and insight of the opinions you have about women, I am living proof that there is a LOT of truth to the things you say. You and I are different, from different backgrounds and upbringing. I am an African American male about to turn 35 and I live in the South. You and I are probably night and day in a lot of ways--- but my experience as a Nice Guy and my dealings with women is EXACTLY THE SAME AS YOURS (with very little exceptions). I've never met you, but I swear to God (if there is one) my personal experiences with women are damn near a clone of yours. The Single Moms stories I've experienced and can relate to. The subject of accountability I see happening a lot, too. I even had a Lying Whorebag of my own! Mine lived with me for about six months and she was an ex-stripper who didn't work. I paid all the bills (just like you) and all she did was complain and want more. She was beautiful and great in bed, but she was a high maintenance princess who was selfish and wanted her way ALL THE TIME without exception. She was wrong quite often and she did me wrong up until the day I had to kick her out. Even though I said, "I'm sorry" quite often, she never apologized to me for calling me names, breaking things in the house, or any of the other things she did throughout our relationship. Whenever I nailed her on being selfish, of course, she turned it around and put the blame on me (sound familiar?). (Hell, yes. -- NG) With all the problems I had with my Whorebag, at least I got some sex out of the deal. Sex was something she used to manipulate me into letting her move into me (and live rent free) and I fell for it! As soon as she moved in and was secure that I was hooked on her (and in love), the sex became less and less frequent and eventually stopped altogether. I had to damn near beg to get some and when I eventually got it, it was a quick, "going through the motions" effort. Other than her, I haven't had a whole lot of other women who put out for me sexually or reciprocated my kindness. The other women I've pursued just wanted to use me as a "male girlfriend" to share their problems with while they gave their love and bodies to some guy who was the bad boy type. I think, in this regard, women have an ego that is much bigger than the "male ego" they often bring up. Women need to have a male girlfriend in order to feel good about themselves. The male girlfriend is the guy who wants them, but they reject him every time. Instead of telling him they're not attracted and letting him go find someone else who wants him, they string him along with the promise of some potential sex. In reality, they will NEVER have sex with them. They just want him around to kiss their ass and tell them how great they are because it makes them feel special. They need him to boost up their self esteem and confirm to them that they are still beautiful and desirable after the bad boy has walked all over them and left. Women try to have as many male girlfriends as they can. They love having a lot of men (who they aren't |